Re: PDF in Firefox (or any browser)

Mike & Barbara <mb69mach1@...>

Hi Susan,

Below is an explanation of all 4 cursors used in the JAWS program.

About JAWS Cursors
Navigating through Windows with JAWS is accomplished with cursors. These
cursors determine the focus of JAWS speech and are often directly linked
with Windows cursors.

The PC Cursor - Follows Keystrokes
This cursor is linked to the keyboard functions of Windows and
This is the cursor that is used when typing information, moving through
options in dialog boxes, and selecting options or icons. As you type
information, the PC Cursor follows along with each key you press. If you
making a selection in a menu or dialog box, the PC Cursor highlights the
currently selected object. The PC Cursor is activated by default when JAWS
starts. If you are using a different cursor, pressing NUM PAD PLUS returns
you to the PC Cursor.

The JAWS Cursor - Follows Mouse Pointer
The JAWS Cursor is linked to mouse pointer functions in Windows and other
applications. It is used to read information the PC Cursor cannot read,
as toolbar information. The mouse follows along with the JAWS Cursor when
is moved, and you therefore have access to information in an application
window that is beyond the scope of the PC Cursor. To activate the JAWS
Cursor, press NUM PAD MINUS.

The Virtual PC Cursor - HTML Environment
The virtual PC Cursor mimics the functions of the PC Cursor, but is
activated by default when entering an HTML document. The virtual PC Cursor
speaks the number of frames in a document, and the number of links in the
frame. You can switch between frames, and JAWS reads graphics labeled by
tags in the HTML code.

Invisible Cursor

The JAWS cursor is basically the mouse cursor that is visible on screen.
The invisible cursor can be moved around just like the JAWS cursor to view
information. It works like the mouse cursor but can not be seen on screen
or effect objects. Therefore you can not use the NumPad / (left mouse
click) or NumPad * (right mouse click) on an object. It is useful to read
information without disturbing the mouse cursor. It is also useful to
determine colors or whatever might change when the mouse is over an object.
It will not cause ToolTips to pop up.

Hope this helped. Take care.


----- Original Message -----
From: Susan Kallsen
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 3:21 PM
Subject: RE: PDF in Firefox (or any browser)

I think it has to be online in the browser since I need users to submit it
once they complete the test. Then it goes to an email address. Or
supposedly, since I haven't figured that out yet!! (any suggestions?)
Sorry, I should have said it's an online test form.

Gary, thanks for the suggestion about allowing PDFs to open in a browser,
unfortunately I already had that checked.

Adrian, Would you explain switching to a JAWS cursor for me? I'm learning
JAWS as I work on this project and I'm not sure what that is or what a
key would be?

Thanks all,


-----Original Message-----
From: []
On Behalf Of Soronel Haetir
Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 4:15 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: PDF in Firefox (or any browser)

Honestly, even when I could still see I never had success with acrobat
hosted in the browser. Even then I was pretty much stuck saving the file
and loading it in reader.

Is having the PDF be a browser hosted form really a make or break issue

On 2/23/12, Susan Kallsen <> wrote:
> I have to add an IE question to this also!
> My PDF is read by JAWS accurately in Firefox (as long as my cursor is
> manually placed into the text area, see my issue with this below) but
> I just tried it in Internet Explorer and it's not even recognizing it
> if I manually place my cursor in the document.
> More info: I created this in Acrobat Pro using all of the
> Accessibility tags and edits necessary for it to "pass" as an entirely
accessible document.
> Welcome any tips or ideas! Thanks,
> Susan
> -----Original Message-----
> From:
> []
> On Behalf Of Eric Ngondi
> Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 2:38 PM
> To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
> Subject: Re: PDF in Firefox (or any browser)
> hi all,
> susan, wish i could help! i keep on hearing " blank document " or
> "empty document " anybody please to help us???
> On 2/23/12, Susan Kallsen <> wrote:
>> I think this has a simple answer, but I can't figure it out!
>> I have created an accessible PDF form in Acrobat that is used online
>> in a browser. Once the cursor is IN the text area, JAWS reads
>> everything very well. But I can't figure out how to get JAWS to tab
>> INTO the actual PDF, it just tabs between the URL and other things at
>> the top of the page in Firefox. How do I get it to jump into the
>> actual
> document?
>> Thanks!
>> Susan
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