moderated Re: Accessible System Backup Image software, (WAS) the latest update to jaws 2020 giving me a fit


Glenn / Lenny
 


Windows 10 does, but you can't zip your system while it is running.
And it doesn't matter if win PE is not windows 10, if you are in win PE you can be using Windows XP and it can copy any NTFS or FAT32 file system.
The key thing is that you need to not be running your own operating system to copy all the files with 7Zip, or any zip program, because it has to copy system files that are in use.
The imaging software that others have posted, know how to unload and reload critical system files during a backup.
That is why those utilities have always been necessary for backups, unless you can access your HD without booting up, and that is what Win PE was made for by Microsoft, or one can do this in Linux too, but Win PE offers the comfortable Windows environment.
Glenn
 

----- Original Message -----
From: Tom Behler
Sent: Sunday, May 03, 2020 2:05 PM
Subject: Re: Accessible System Backup Image software, (WAS) the latest update to jaws 2020 giving me a fit

Thanks, Glenn.

 

Looking back to the beginning of this thread, I realize I should have been clearer about the fact that I’m using Windows 10 here on my main computer.

 

I suspect Windows 10 has a .zip utility in it, just like 7.zip for Windows 7?

 

Tom Behler

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Glenn / Lenny
Sent: Sunday, May 3, 2020 2:57 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Accessible System Backup Image software, (WAS) the latest update to jaws 2020 giving me a fit

 

Hi Tom,

Win PE is made by Microsoft, the PE stands for Preinstallation Environment.

That is what people are booting up to on a Windows installation disk for setting up Windows for the first time, or to boot up to for system repairs.

Microsoft offers it for people to download and use by itself and to customize.

A Blind guy named Carlos, who passed away some time back, made one with audio drivers and NVDA on boot-up and lots of utilities.

So when you boot up, you are on a desktop environment, only it is not your windows, WinPE is loaded into your computer's RAM, and your C-Drive is your system, but it is just there, as if you had pulled your hard drive and plugged it in as a second drive.

So you have full access to all the drive and system files.

You can get on-line and listen to audio in the Win PE environment, or you can do system repairs, or copy your hard drive.

You aren't running your windows, so there is no issue of windows squawking about this or that file is in use.

It has 7Zip on it,so you can use that to zip up your HD, or use one of the image utilities on the CD.

It doesn't have eMail installed, but other than that, and the fact that changes won't be on it when you reboot it, it is like free windows.

Glenn

----- Original Message -----

From: Tom Behler

Sent: Sunday, May 03, 2020 1:47 PM

Subject: Re: Accessible System Backup Image software, (WAS) the latest update to jaws 2020 giving me a fit

 

Glenn:

 

I need some clarification here:

 

What is WinPE?

 

And, isn’t 7zip for Windows 7?

 

I’m using Windows 10 here.

 

Tom Behler

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Glenn / Lenny
Sent: Sunday, May 3, 2020 12:45 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Accessible System Backup Image software, (WAS) the latest update to jaws 2020 giving me a fit

 

Tom,

If you boot to Win PE, you can use 7Zip to zip up your HD and unzip it if you need to at a later time.

Also, when you do this, you can delete two system files that are temp files, and will save you the amount of twice your RAM.

So if you have 4GB of RAM, you can save 8GB by deleting pagefile.sys and hiberfil.sys before zipping up your HD, and windows will recreate those two files on boot-up.

They are just temp files Windows uses as virtual memory.

 

Glenn

 

----- Original Message -----

From: Tom Behler

Sent: Sunday, May 03, 2020 11:31 AM

Subject: Accessible System Backup Image software, (WAS) the latest update to jaws 2020 giving me a fit

 

Hello.

 

I know this has been addressed before, but could someone suggest an accessible system backup image program that is easy to use independently, and that works well with Jaws?

 

I routinely back up all my files, but would like to be able to back up my complete hard drive if possible.

 

Until now, I’ve always understood that these backup image programs have accessibility issues at certain points, but perhaps I’m wrong.

 

Tom Behler

 

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Sunday, May 3, 2020 11:48 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: the latest update to jaws 2020 giving me a fit

 

On Sun, May 3, 2020 at 08:26 AM, Rick Mladek wrote:

Too obvious to be a mere coincidence...

If you have had this occur, twice, you should be looking at something being wrong with your hardware.

Application software has never, in my decades of experience, corrupted any OS (and I don't count viruses or malware as "application software.")

You are, however, giving people very good advice with regard to having a backup protocol and taking full system image backups on a routine cycle.  The number of things that have the potential to cause a system to crash are numerous, and generally related to people screwing around with the OS itself in ways they shouldn't or drive failure.  Having a backup saves you untold time and grief.
 
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Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

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