David Goldfield <david.goldfield@...>
Hi, Tom.
If you're using Brian Hartgen's Zoom
scripts with JAWS, including the free scripts, you can
press alt-Windows-S to toggle the speaking of Zoom alerts. Without
those scripts JAWS and NVDA can be set to not speak anything but
the problem with this latter approach is that you then silence
nearly everything else, which is not always ideal or desirable. It
sounds like Zoom is planning to allow users to select which alerts
they do and don't wish to hear. This is particularly nice as this
should work regardless of which screen reader you are using.
David Goldfield,
Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist
JAWS Certified, 2019
WWW.DavidGoldfield.org
On 4/28/2020 10:32 AM, Tom Behler
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Hello.
I thought the Jaws or insert key plus S
also enables and disables announcements.
Please correct me if I’m wrong.
Tom Behler
That keystroke works in the free Zoom. Its
part of the scripts included in Jaws 2020 for sure since I do
not have the pro scripts and it works.
Qwawntine, qwawantine, is wot dwives
us to dwinking, today.
Sent with the iPhone SE 2020
On Apr 28, 2020, at 6:24 AM, Mario
<mrb620@...>
wrote:
according to an audio I found from
Brian Hartgen, if you get the Zoom professional scripts,
windows+alt+s disables the alerts globally. but if one
downloads the free basic scripts, windows+alt+s only
disables the alerts when in the client window.
-------- Original Message --------
From: Shai [mailto:shaiwol@...]
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Date: Monday, April 27, 2020, 7:20 PM
Subject: Message Sent to Zoom Support on Meeting
Entry/Exit Notifications
That's correct Monica but that is only when one is in
the Zoom
application. If a person elects to go to the desktop or
any other part
of their pc, then the alert that the person has
joined/left a meeting
will be indicated by JAWS again.
On 4/27/20, Monica S <mrod16@...> wrote:
Hi, I think you would press windows+alt+s to disable
alerts.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On
Behalf Of Marty Hutchings
Sent: Monday, April 27, 2020 2:18 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Message Sent to Zoom Support on Meeting
Entry/Exit
Notifications
I have found that pressing JAWS + S until you hear
‘'”None” turns off screen
echo, which stops JAWS from announcing who has entered
or left the meeting.
Love in Christ
Marty
For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but
against the rulers,
against the powers, against the world forces of this
darkness, against the
spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.
Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you
will be able to resist
in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand
firm.
Ephesians 6:12, 13
From: Richard Turner <mailto:richardturner42@...>
Sent: Monday, April 27, 2020 8:36 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Re: Message Sent to Zoom Support on Meeting
Entry/Exit
Notifications
Hi,
So, are the announcements of people entering or leaving
considered an alert?
Like others, I’ve been thrown into learning zoom.
If those are alerts then they can be turned off, but it
looks like all
alerts will be turned off. This is from pressing
insert+h in Zoom with
Jaws.
.
Link‑ To enable or disable alerts, press Alt+Windows+S.
Link‑ To hear the most recent alert, press
Alt+Windows+A.
Link‑ To be reminded of whether alert announcements are
enabled or disabled,
press JAWSKey+Tab.
To review the last 10 alerts or messages, press
Control+1 through to
Control+0. Press twice quickly to virtualise.
Link‑ To only allow chat messages when pressing
Control+1 through to
Control+0 press control+F5.
Functionality has also been added to report:
The state of recording when ALT+R is pressed. This is a
keystroke which
enables or disables the recording.
Whether the recording has been paused or is resuming
when ALT+P is pressed.
Whether the audio has been muted for all participants
when ALT+A is pressed.
The controls for scheduling and creating a meeting
should also be easier to
understand.
Richard
"There's a nap for that." - an anonymous cat in a window
in Portland,
Oregon.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
<main@jfw.groups.io
<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> > On Behalf
Of David Kingsbury
Sent: Monday, April 27, 2020 5:26 AM
To: 'JAWS Main Discussion List' <main@jfw.groups.io
<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> >
Subject: Message Sent to Zoom Support on Meeting
Entry/Exit Notifications
Hi all,
Below is a message I just sent to Zoom Tech Support. If
you agree with my
opinion, please take a little time to send them similar
requests. It’s more
effective if several people speak out.
Regards,
David
Hello,
I would like to report on a general problem, not
specific to any meeting,
and make some suggestions. I am blind and use the JAWS
screen reader
program. Like millions of other people, many blind
people have increased
their use of the invaluable Zoom platform to stay in
touch and conduct
business meetings in these challenging times.
As you know, when participants enter and leave meetings,
it is announced. I
assume visual participants see something on the screen.
Screen reader users
hear “John Smith has entered the meeting,” or “Sally
Jones has left the
meeting.” Because we are forced to hear this audio, it
often seriously
disrupts meetings, especially those with a large number
of participants.
Presenters who use screen readers are frequently
interrupted and thrown off
stride. Participants often have to ask presenters to
repeat what they just
said. It can even be awkward and embarrassing. Imagine
yourself in a meeting
conducted in a physical conference room. In the middle
of a presentation,
somebody suddenly blurts out “My name is John Smith and
I am leaving the
meeting.” He then gets up and walks out the door. Of
course, everybody would
be shocked at this outrageous behavior. A milder form of
this can happen in
Zoom meetings. To be perfectly frank, the main reason I
leave meetings early
is that I no longer think the discussion worth my time.
But I don’t want to
be forced to publicly proclaim it. One thing I recently
figured out is to
rename myself as a fake phone number. That way, when I
leave nobody knows
who I am. But I should not be compelled to resort to
such devious behavior.
While there are ways that blind people can mute their
screen reader program,
that only works for those individuals who know the
keystrokes. It does not
help improve overall meeting quality for the other
participants. And if I am
a presenter, I may need to hear my screen reader
program, so I must unmute
it, causing me to hear this annoying verbiage again.
Giving participants and hosts the option to disable
entry and exit
notifications would greatly improve the Zoom meeting
experience for screen
reader users. I would suggest the following specific
modifications to the
Zoom app on the PC.
For participants:
* In the Settings area accessed through the Home Tab,
provide an option for
individuals to mute their individual entry/exit
notification.
* Provide an additional option to mute such
notifications for all
participants.
* In the Participants List area of the Meeting
Controls window for meetings
you are currently participating in, add a disable
entry/exit notifications
in the More options for individual participants
dropdown.
For hosts:
* In the meetings Tab of the PC app, when scheduling
meetings, add an option
to disable exit/entry notifications in the Advanced
options dropdown.
* In the Participants List area of the Meeting
Controls window for meetings
you are currently hosting, add a disable entry/exit
notifications in the
More options for All participants dropdown.
It would be advisable to make similar modifications in
the appropriate
places in the smartphone app.
Thank you for taking time to consider these ideas and
hopefully implement
them . I strongly believe that if You make these
modifications in a future
update, it will greatly improve the Zoom meeting
experience for blind and
visually impaired users of the Zoom Cloud platform.
Regards,
David Kingsbury
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