I just tried the jaws +
windows key + F4, and it works well. It does not give you the usual
screen when exiting JAWS, which was at first confusing because it takes 5-10
seconds before speech stops. JAWS then restarts very quickly, much
faster than usual when starting JAWS, maybe 3 seconds or so. I like
it!
Tim Ford
From:
main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Melissa
Stott via Groups.Io
Sent: Saturday, March 7, 2020 1:32
PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: unload and reload
Jaws?
The Control Alt J still works for me when I want to load
Jaws. However, I have noticed when pressing Insert Windows J, it
hesitates to reload. Sometimes, it doesn’t reload.
.
Melissa
Have actually noticed this as well, oddly
enough...
Must have something to do with accessibility api (if that's
the correct terminology) becoming frozen for one reason or another. Would
be interesting to see if someone can verify this and provide a more
technical explanation.
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On
Behalf Of David Griffith
Sent: March 7, 2020 1:34 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: unload and reload Jaws?
I really think you may have hit upon something
here.
I too have noticed that when Jaws becomes unresponsive if I
turn on Narrator then pretty quickly Jaws comes back to life and starts
talking as well, whereupon I can turn Narrator off again.
This can happen for example if I am using Mp3Gain to
increase the volume of a large number of mp3 files. This is an activity which
Jaws does not seem to like and can often become unresponsive during the
process.
I had put this apparent ability to unlock Jaws using
Narrator down to coincidence but given your experience also there
may be something happening when turning Narrator on which is, behind the
scenes, unlocking some kind of log jam in Jaws.
David Griffith
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On
Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: 07 March 2020 16:09
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: unload and reload Jaws?
I find this key combo works much more slowly in JAWS 2020
than in previous versions. The funny thing is that lately I've found a way to
get JAWS to reload more quickly is to start Narrator with control-windows
key-enter. For some reason, this seems to inspire JAWS also to load, at which
point I toggle Narrator off with the same keystroke. I haven't read about this
workaround anywhere. I just noticed it happening once, and then it happened
several times after that. Probably not consistent.
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On
Behalf Of David Griffith
Sent: Saturday, March 7, 2020 11:04 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: unload and reload Jaws?
I have just tried it and yes it does work so thanks for the
information.
Unfortunately, as you say it is very slow compared to the
equivalent in NVDA but it is still a good option to use when Jaws starts to
struggle. I will experiment and try it out over the next few
weeks.
Thanks again to Bill for this
keystroke.
David Griffith.
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On
Behalf Of Dan Longmore
Sent: 07 March 2020 15:48
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: unload and reload Jaws?
Yes, that does work. Why I thought it did not work
was because JAWS took a long time to reload. Then again, it's
JAWS.
Dan
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On
Behalf Of Mario
Sent: Friday, March 6, 2020 7:49 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: unload and reload Jaws?
Bill's right, the keystroke is insert+windows+f4 to unload
and reload JAWS. did you try it Dan?
-------- Original Message --------
From: Dan Longmore
[mailto:danlongmore44@...]
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Date: Friday, March 6, 2020, 7:18 PM
Subject: unload and reload Jaws?
No, this combination quits JAWS and dumps from memory but a
manual re start from shortcut key or other options is required.
Dan
*From:* main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> *On
Behalf Of *Bill White
*Sent:* Friday, March 6, 2020 7:13 PM
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io
*Subject:* Re: unload and reload Jaws?
Hi, David. Try the following keystroke to unload and reload
JAWS:
JAWS key plus WinKey plus F4.
Bill White
billwhite92701@...
<mailto:billwhite92701@...>
*From:*main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
[mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] *On Behalf Of *David Griffith
*Sent:* Friday, March 6, 2020 4:01 PM
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io
<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: unload and reload Jaws?
Not here.
I have ben using Jaws since 1999 and in all this time this
keystroke on my systems only unloads Jaws but does not restart
it.
David Griffith
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*Sent: *06 March 2020 23:54
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*Subject: *Re: unload and reload Jaws?
jaws already has this option.
press the jaws key and f4. this will unload and reload
it.
-----Original Message-----
From: David Griffith
Sent: Friday, March 06, 2020 3:42 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Re: unload and reload Jaws?
Personally as a feature request I would prefer
that Jaws has the same
behaviour as NVDA. That is, with NVDA running pressing
control alt and N will
close and restart NVDA in one operation without any further
intervention. Jaws
should do the same thing with control alt
J.
This NVDA feature is very useful if for any reason NVDA has
stalled or speech
has been lost. It clears up these problems quickly and
nicely as NVDA instantly
restarts itself with this forced restart.
In contrast if Jaws stalls you have to first of all try and
shut it down and
then try to re-load it. The exception to this is if Jaws
itself recognises that
it has crashed in which case it will sometimes restart
itself without any
intervention from the user. The drawback it that it
normally takes quite a
time to come to this conclusion.
Shutting down Jaws within one session in these
circumstances is also not always
straightforward. Occasionally I have ended up with multiple
Jaws icons on my
system tray as previous version have clearly failed to
completely unload, even
though only one instance of Jaws is talking.
A computer restart is normally required to remove these
multiple ghost
instances of Jaws.
I would much prefer NVDA’s one shortcut
approach which in my experience never
results in multiple versions of NVDA trying to run in the
background.
David Griffith
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From: ben
Sent: 06 March 2020 22:56
To: main@jfw.groups.io
<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Re: unload and reload Jaws?
Hi,
The two ways I restart JAWS are as follows:
One, press the Windows key and the letter r to bring up the
run box. Type
jaws2020 and press enter. JAWS should come up
talking.
Two, press the windows key and the letter m to bring up the
desktop.
Press j
for JAWS and press enter. The only thing to remember with
the desktop method is
if you have other things that start with j on your desktop,
you might land on
one of those.
I hope this helps.
On Mar 6, 2020, at 2:59 PM, Andrew J. LaPointe
<alapointe89@... <mailto:alapointe89@...>>
wrote:
Hi, I was using qread and decided to unload jaws (jaws key
f4. When I wanted
to reload jaws, I used control alt and j and it didn’t
work. Is there a new
way of reloading Jaws now? I am using the latest jaws
20. What I had to do
was shut the computer and restart and Jaws loaded at
startup. Thank you for
your help. Also, I am most likely getting a used
Romeo Printer at Humanware.
Thanks to everyone that helped me sort all this…you are all
great!!
Andy and
Shubert
Andrew J. LaPointe, President
Friends of the Salem Council on Aging
34 Raymond Ave.
Salem, MA. 01970
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