moderated Re: Greetings and Kaspersky Total Security with JAWS


Pramit
 

Hi,

Even I used to use Avast Antivirus program earlier but I now I don't.
The best thing about Windows Defender is that it doesn't hamper your system performance while the other third party antivirus programs do.
After uninstalling the antivirus, my system boot time has reduced and there is no lag while working on it.

I personally feel that one should not open any unknown links or emails, plus be a little careful while browsing the internet, because the virus never comes in the system automatically, it's us who let them in without knowing.

Pramit 

On Fri, Mar 6, 2020 at 3:38 AM Abraham Sweiss <abrahamsweiss8@...> wrote:
I agree. All I use now for security on windows 10 windows defender and windows firewall.
They perform as well or better than the third party options.
However there is no one single product which will protect you from anything or yourself.


Thanks,abraham

> On Mar 5, 2020, at 3:10 PM, Glenn / Lenny <glennervin@...> wrote:
>
> Dave,
> Windows existed long before windows XP, and had no virus protection other
> than third-party software.
> And when it did start producing something, it was under par compared with
> the third-party software.
> Now it has gotten its act together, since Windows 7.
> Glenn
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Dave Durber" <d.durber@...>
> To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
> Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2020 1:57 PM
> Subject: Re: Greetings and Kaspersky Total Security with JAWS
>
>
>> Hello Glen:
>>
>> I do not know where you got the idea that Microsoft were reluctant to
>> produce their own Antivirus software. If that was the case, why did they
>> produce Microsoft Essentials for Windows XP, Windows Vista and Windows 7.
>>
>> As far as I know, Windows Defender, including its Antivirus component, was
>> always going to be available as the default protection software, for
>> windows8, 8.1 and Windows 10.
>>
>> Dave durber
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Glenn / Lenny" <glennervin@...>
>> To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
>> Sent: Thursday, March 5, 2020 5:32 PM
>> Subject: Re: Greetings and Kaspersky Total Security with JAWS
>>
>>
>> I agree, I only use Microsoft's Defender, and I must say that it was long
>> over-due, Microsoft should have been protecting their system from the
>> start.
>> I think that they were getting into trouble with anti-trust suits like
>> with
>> it's Internet Explorer and other such programs that seemed to keep the
>> competition out, so MS was reluctant to make its own anti-virus program
>> for
>> fear that they were again killing off competition.
>> Glenn
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Dan Longmore" <danlongmore44@...>
>> To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
>> Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2020 11:26 AM
>> Subject: Re: Greetings and Kaspersky Total Security with JAWS
>>
>>
>> Hi,
>> While I appreciate your feelings , the most recent Freedom Scientific
>> podcast stated that Windows Defender is very effective and the most
>> effective anti virus for most users. And Eric from Vespero said this
>> assumes
>> that you are not "doing something stupid" while surfing the net.
>> I have used Windows Defender and has done just fine.  Now, nothing against
>> other anti virus programs but let's not trash Defender just based on
>> personal experiences or preferences.
>>
>> Dan
>> PS  Many days I have your same feelings toward JAWS.
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Emre Rencber
>> Sent: Wednesday, March 4, 2020 8:24 AM
>> To: main@jfw.groups.io
>> Subject: Re: Greetings and Kaspersky Total Security with JAWS
>>
>> Windows defender is not effective. A completely fiasco software. We know
>> that the first virus in computer history was written by Bill Gates. So why
>> do we trust Microsoft so much? Kaspersky says there is no such thing. They
>> even say we can show our source code. Despite this, I do not go and use an
>> antivirus that does nothing. Kaspersky also has a free antivirus.
>>
>> 2020-03-04 16:19 GMT+03:00, Gerald Levy via Groups.Io
>> <bwaylimited=verizon.net@groups.io>:
>>>
>>> Excuse me, but other list members, the vast majority of whom live here
>>> in the states,  have the right to full disclosure about Kaspersky Labs
>>> and its ties to the hostle Russian government. This Moscow-based
>>> company has been banned from doing business with US government
>>> agencies, so as the saying goes, where' there's smoke, there's fire.
>>> Although Kaspersky's anti-virus products may be legit, the company's
>>> real mission is highly questionable, regardless of anyone's political
>>> beliefs, and I personally would not trust their software products when
>>> Windows Security is free and probably just as effective. But to each, his
>>> own.
>>>
>>>
>>> Gerald
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> On 3/4/2020 7:52 AM, Rick Mladek wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Pozdrawiam,
>>>>
>>>> So much for international relations. Please ignore those political
>>>> comments. Truly not necessary when dealing with individuals from
>>>> around the globe. Please Gerald, remember this when addressing our
>>>> Friends all here about Jaws and not anything more.
>>>>
>>>> *From:*main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> *On Behalf Of *Gerald
>>>> Levy via Groups.Io
>>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, March 4, 2020 6:31 AM
>>>> *To:* main@jfw.groups.io
>>>> *Subject:* Re: Greetings and Kaspersky Total Security with JAWS
>>>>
>>>> Why would anyone trust a paid anti-virus program who developers are
>>>> based in Russia?  There have been allegations that this company may
>>>> even be involved in the Russian hacking scheme to influence the
>>>> outcomes of the 2016 and now the 2020 elections, and that it may even
>>>> have close ties to Vladimir Puten. I have no idea whether these
>>>> allegations are true or not, but why take chances when Windows
>>>> Security is free and totally accessible and does a satisfactory job?
>>>>
>>>> Gerald
>>>>
>>>> On 3/3/2020 9:36 PM, David Goldfield wrote:
>>>>
>>>>    Hello. While I have not used Kaspersky Total Security I have been
>>>>    using Kaspersky Antivirus for approximately five years with both
>>>>    JAWS as well as with NVDA. I can definitely confirm your findings.
>>>>    I won't say much about using Kaspersky with NVDA since this is a
>>>>    JAWS-specific list. However, the following link will take you to a
>>>>    detailed review which I wrote discussing NVDA's performance with
>>>>    Kaspersky.
>>>>
>>>> <https://davidgoldfield.wordpress.com/2016/11/16/kaspersky-antivirus-a-review-for-screen-reader-users/>When
>>>>    using Kaspersky Antivirus with JAWS I have sometimes seen JAWS
>>>>    being able to read the various controls as I navigate to them with
>>>>    tab or shift-tab but this accessibility seemed to stop working
>>>>    after a while. I am guessing this could have been due to a
>>>>    Kaspersky program update but I cannot confirm this without
>>>>    uninstalling it and reinstalling an earlier version which I
>>>>    honestly don't wish to do. For now the tab key reads nothing and,
>>>>    as you say, using the touch cursor is necessary when navigating in
>>>>    the main window. If you access the program from the system tray
>>>>    choosing the Settings or Task Manager options may be more
>>>>    accessible with JAWS. I do feel that some scripting could solve
>>>>    for many of these issues. Once I learn a little more about
>>>>    scripting I am willing to try and write some Kaspersky scripts but
>>>>    it's going to be a while before this can happen.
>>>>
>>>>    David Goldfield,
>>>>
>>>>    Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist
>>>>
>>>>    JAWS Certified, 2019
>>>>
>>>>    WWW.DavidGoldfield.org  <http://WWW.DavidGoldfield.org>
>>>>
>>>>    On 3/3/2020 3:47 PM, Arkadiusz Świętnicki wrote:
>>>>
>>>>        Hello guys!
>>>>
>>>>        Thank you for letting me in in to your groups! I am a JAWS
>>>>        user from Poland, primarily interested in programming, sound
>>>>        design and other things. I have came here to discuss this
>>>>        great screenreader with you, ask questions and help others to
>>>>        the best of my ability.
>>>>
>>>>        The first problem I have noticed and wanted to discuss is JAWS
>>>>        support for the Kaspersky Total Security package. I use this
>>>>        software and it is essential for me to have this one pretty
>>>>        wellaccessible.. The competing screenreader works with it OK,
>>>>        however JAWS has its problems. Tab and Shift+Tab seem not to
>>>>        work at all while I am in the PC Cursor mode. I have to use
>>>>        the touch cursor to operate the software, and it is not always
>>>>        convenient to use this specific cursor.
>>>>
>>>>        Moreover this behavior is very illogical to me, as KTS’s
>>>>        interface seems to be standard WPF or something of that sorts.
>>>>
>>>>        Maybe I am doing something wrong (I’m pretty new to JFW, I use
>>>>        it for less than a year).
>>>>
>>>>        Pozdrawiam,
>>>>
>>>>        Arkadiusz Świętnicki AKA. Nuno
>>>>
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