moderated Re: Greetings and Kaspersky Total Security with JAWS


John Covici
 

Kaspersky has always had some accessibility problems, security folks
are recomending to just use windows defender these days as long as you
are careful where you go on the web.

On Wed, 04 Mar 2020 08:49:45 -0500,
Arkadiusz Świętnicki wrote:

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Friends, please stay civil wherever possible. He just expressed his opinion, with which I disagree, but it’s his right, I guess. Now let’s back to Jawsing please?



Pozdrawiam,

Arkadiusz Świętnicki AKA. Nuno



From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rick Mladek
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Start your political nonsense group, you have no right throwing this out when this list is for Jaws, not your political views forced down the throats of those not within the United States. Stop it already!



From: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> <main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> > On Behalf Of Gerald Levy via Groups.Io
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Excuse me, but other list members, the vast majority of whom live here in the states, have the right to full disclosure about Kaspersky Labs and its ties to the hostle Russian government. This Moscow-based company has been banned from doing business with US government agencies, so as the saying goes, where' there's smoke, there's fire. Although Kaspersky's anti-virus products may be legit, the company's real mission is highly questionable, regardless of anyone's political beliefs, and I personally would not trust their software products when Windows Security is free and probably just as effective. But to each, his own.



Gerald





On 3/4/2020 7:52 AM, Rick Mladek wrote:

Pozdrawiam,



So much for international relations. Please ignore those political comments. Truly not necessary when dealing with individuals from around the globe. Please Gerald, remember this when addressing our Friends all here about Jaws and not anything more.







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Why would anyone trust a paid anti-virus program who developers are based in Russia? There have been allegations that this company may even be involved in the Russian hacking scheme to influence the outcomes of the 2016 and now the 2020 elections, and that it may even have close ties to Vladimir Puten. I have no idea whether these allegations are true or not, but why take chances when Windows Security is free and totally accessible and does a satisfactory job?



Gerald





On 3/3/2020 9:36 PM, David Goldfield wrote:

Hello. While I have not used Kaspersky Total Security I have been using Kaspersky Antivirus for approximately five years with both JAWS as well as with NVDA. I can definitely confirm your findings. I won't say much about using Kaspersky with NVDA since this is a JAWS-specific list. However, the following link will take you to a detailed review which I wrote discussing NVDA's performance with Kaspersky. <https://davidgoldfield.wordpress.com/2016/11/16/kaspersky-antivirus-a-review-for-screen-reader-users/> When using Kaspersky Antivirus with JAWS I have sometimes seen JAWS being able to read the various controls as I navigate to them with tab or shift-tab but this accessibility seemed to stop working after a while. I am guessing this could have been due to a Kaspersky program update but I cannot confirm this without uninstalling it and reinstalling an earlier version which I honestly don't wish to do. For now the tab key reads nothing and, as you say, using the touch cursor is necessary when navigating in the main window. If you access the program from the system tray choosing the Settings or Task Manager options may be more accessible with JAWS. I do feel that some scripting could solve for many of these issues. Once I learn a little more about scripting I am willing to try and write some Kaspersky scripts but it's going to be a while before this can happen.

David Goldfield,
Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist
JAWS Certified, 2019

WWW.DavidGoldfield.org <http://WWW.DavidGoldfield.org>

On 3/3/2020 3:47 PM, Arkadiusz Świętnicki wrote:

Hello guys!

Thank you for letting me in in to your groups! I am a JAWS user from Poland, primarily interested in programming, sound design and other things. I have came here to discuss this great screenreader with you, ask questions and help others to the best of my ability.

The first problem I have noticed and wanted to discuss is JAWS support for the Kaspersky Total Security package. I use this software and it is essential for me to have this one pretty wellaccessible.. The competing screenreader works with it OK, however JAWS has its problems. Tab and Shift+Tab seem not to work at all while I am in the PC Cursor mode. I have to use the touch cursor to operate the software, and it is not always convenient to use this specific cursor.

Moreover this behavior is very illogical to me, as KTS’s interface seems to be standard WPF or something of that sorts.

Maybe I am doing something wrong (I’m pretty new to JFW, I use it for less than a year).

Pozdrawiam,

Arkadiusz Świętnicki AKA. Nuno








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