moderated Re: The New Edge not that Great with JAWS Yet.
The address bar is the “omnibox” which is what it is called since it is more than just a field where you type in a URL. So, since you can find the address bar (I still call it that) and apparently typed
Edge://flags
Correctly since you found experimental flags, you are in the right place. This UI Automation is in fact one of the experimental flags you have to disable. If you use Jaws you can simply invoke Jaws Find with Jaws Key + Control + F and type this:
UI Auto
Press enter and you end up on UI Automation. Arrow down a couple of times until you are on the combo box where it says “Enabled”, open the combo box and change it to “Disabled”. Now go to the very bottom of the page and activate “Restart” or you can simply close Edge altogether and open it back up.
Regards, Sieghard Sieghard
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of
David Diamond
Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2020 9:33 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: The New Edge not that Great with JAWS Yet.
I must be doing something wrong because there is no way to get to step 2 much less 3. I copied and pasted step 1 without the quotes in the address bar as I could not find the address omnibox that you mentioned. All that did was get me to a lot of things unrelated to the topic at hand. The closest match was to enable experimental flags. I don’t want to do that.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io>
On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Hi, The issue folks are talking about can be summarized in one way: UI Automation. The following is a bit geeky, so please bear with me: By default, Edge 79 (beta and stable) enables native UI Automation implementation. This means in order to access content in Edge (Chromium-based, that is), solid UI Automation implementation must be agreed upon between web browser (UIA server) and screen readers (UIA clients). Unfortunately, according to one screen reader vendor, UI Automation in Edge 79 isn’t solid yet, so one screen reader is resorting to forcefully turning off UIA support in Edge (from screen reader point of view). As for all sorts of announcements JAWS is making in Edge 79: this is caused by UI Automation notification event (introduced in Windows 10 Fall Creators Update). This event is used by apps to let screen readers announce essential messages. This is how Narrator can announce certain messages, and recent JAWS versions support this event. For now the workaround (until Microsoft resolves this) is forcefully telling Edge 79 to not expose UI Automation to screen readers. This can be done by:
I’ll publish more info on a dedicated Windows 10 forum for screen reader users (with updated info on screen readers and their responses) in a few moments. Cheers, Joseph
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io>
On Behalf Of David Diamond
How do I change the settings in edge? Microsoft help desk says you can’t. You can just reset or repair it, you cannot turn on or off any settings. I just don’t want edge to ribbit on about things I really don’t need to know such as opening or closing navigations.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io>
On Behalf Of Jason White via Groups.Io
The new Chromium-based version of Microsoft Edge has worked well with JAWS 2020 in my testing. It’s very similar to Chrome in terms of accessibility.
From: <main@jfw.groups.io> on behalf of Brian Vogel <britechguy@...>
On Thu, Jan 16, 2020 at 01:43 PM, Tyler Wood wrote:
It's been essential long before "these days." Browsers have been vastly configurable for some time now. What's really nice, though, is that many of them now have a search feature for their settings, not unlike Windows 10 does for system
settings. I generally find it a lot easier to locate what I want with a search, or several searches using different, but related, keywords than to brute force drill down through page after page or tab after tab of settings. There has also been a tendency
to move things around over time, so if you remember what setting it is you want to tweak it's much easier to locate with a search if it's been moved. Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363 Tolerance is the positive and cordial effort to understand another's beliefs, practices, and habits without necessarily sharing or accepting them. ~ Joshua Liebman
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