-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@... [mailto:jfw-bounces@...]
On Behalf Of wogg le4
Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2012 11:05 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Crack For Jaws 64 Bit Win 7

I think NVDA is nearly there. I think it need's about another year.

My points re apple stand.

Would you still say you couldn't steal food if the alternative was
starving? Because for us computing and the freedom it gives us is a
civil right and a human right.

Maybe you think I'm wrong to try and get a crack. That's fair enough -
though am I really doing anything worse than the milions of people who
download movees, music etc. illegally?

(Truth is that copyright law is out of date, out of touch and on its way
out.)

even if you do think I'm wrong, you should still agree with me that
something should be done re the 3rd world and Jaws.

Will people on this list start a petition? Or does your moral outrage
extend only to criticizing me for looking for a crack?

On 2/4/12, Richard Holloway <rholloway@...> wrote:

It may cost them less than that. I think the product is overpriced, and I
highly object to charging for skipped upgrades or SMA's where no support

was

ever offered for those versions. If that business model works, they should
be increasing the product cost of each new version to make new customers

pay

for versions they never owned, right?

The problem with the system is there is no real competition on par with

JAWS

and there probably won't be for a long time. Even a great new p roduct

would

take forever to gain enough market share that it is a viable replacement

in

the workplace.

If the Coke company wants to start charging $20 for a can of Coke, they

can

do that, but as long as there is Pepsi and the odd RC Cola (or whatever)
Coke would loose a lot of money in the process of jacking up their prices.
That applies to most everything we buy. Cell phones got much cheaper in
recent years because (in part) there has been competition in the
marketplace. When you have no competition, you can pretty well set pricing
at will. Make no mistake about it, Freedom Scientific is not a non-proffit
organization.

Freedom could absolutely use some competition, at least from the

consumers'

standpoint. It drives pricing down and product quality up. That however
doesn't mean that if Cokes (my personal favorite) go up to $20 apiece I

can

justify stealing them because I think they are overpriced. That's where it
all breaks down for me.

On Feb 4, 2012, at 11:50 AM, cecropia64 wrote:

unfortunately, nobody said that greed doesn't have a whole lot to do with
all this, because it certainly does. also, do you really think jaws

costs

a thousand bucks? i'll bet it costs freedome about a hundred and fifty

to

twwo hundred to actually produce, if that. oh well, looks like there
isn't one answer that fits all.

On 2/4/2012 11:33 AM, Nickus de Vos wrote:

Just one thing else for interest sake now that you mention steeling
from software companies pockets. I know this is getting off topic but
end of last year sometime I read a study, they actually said if
Microsoft considerably drop their software prices for windows and
office, they'll actually make more of a profit than they currently do.
Because at the moment windows and office is the most pirated software
worldwide and if it's cheeper more people will buy it. If you think
about it most people pirate software because they can't afford it so
imagine how many more will buy windows if it was like $40 or $50, just
look at Apple's Lion OS, the upgrade cost people $30 for 10 machines
assentially $3 per computer.

On 2/4/12, Nickus de Vos<bigboy529@...> wrote:

I don't agree with piracy but agree that jaws and most other assistive
devices are crazally expensive. If you really can't aford jaws then
use NVDA, it's totally free and feeture wise it's rite up there with
jaws, in fact there's some semi accessible software which I can access
better with NVDA than with jaws. Something else somebody mentioned,
does it really cost $3800 to get a guide dog in the US? If I
understand rite, that's crazy. In South africa we pay about the
equivalent of $15 or $20 but then again for stuff like jaws we pay
about equivalent of $1500. We don't easally get government bersaries
for assistive devices but can claim assistive devices back from the
government through income tax but you must still have the cash to fork
out and then wait a year or more before you can claim it back.

On 2/4/12, Juan Pablo<jpculasso@...> wrote:

Please, Adrian, let me know where I justified the piracy. Only I put

on

the
table a thing that is not never mentioned here. As I wrote in my last
e-mail
leave away the "easy words"
I know that this topic turn very unconfortable. Sorry, but is a part

of

your
reality. I promise you do not respond any future e-mail regarding

that.

All the best.
-----Original Message-----
From: Adrian Spratt
Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2012 1:58 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: Crack For Jaws 64 Bit Win 7

This is like saying that because some people get paid government
benefits,
tax cheating is a legitimate means of making things equal. I'm
surprised
anyone on this list would justify theft.

I'm sorry to extend an off-topic thread, but I can't let this kind of
thinking go unchallenged.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@...
[mailto:jfw-bounces@...]
On Behalf Of Juan Pablo
Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2012 10:28 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Crack For Jaws 64 Bit Win 7

Exactly, Gerald.

A lot of you have an original jaws installed cause of subsidied
agencies
by
the goverments.


-----Original Message-----
From: Gerald Levy
Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2012 1:23 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Crack For Jaws 64 Bit Win 7


Are you suggesting that some of us paid less than the full price of
$1000
for JAWS? The only way this would be possible without buying a

cracked

or
illegal copy would be to have it purchased for us by a rehab agency.

Gerald


----- Original Message -----
From: "Juan Pablo"<jpculasso@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list."<jfw@...>
Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2012 9:57 AM
Subject: Re: Crack For Jaws 64 Bit Win 7

Really guys, How many of you paied the full price of jaws?

-----Original Message-----
From: cecropia64 Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2012 12:53 PM To: The
Jaws
for Windows support list. Subject: Re: Crack For Jaws 64 Bit Win 7
yes, i agreefully. besides, this is why prices of this stuff is so
out
of
reach for many. because of slimy people like this guy who wants

short

cuts instead of doing things the correct way. thanks pal to all of
you
who try similar things it's really apppreciated by those of us who
try
to
do things the honest way!

On 2/4/2012 8:52 AM, George B wrote:

this is not the place for this kind of thing

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@... [mailto:jfw-bounces@...
jdh.com] On Behalf Of wogg le4
Sent: Friday, February 03, 2012 14:49
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Crack For Jaws 64 Bit Win 7

Hi all,

can anyone tell me of a working crack for win 7 64 bit?

email me off list!!!

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