moderated Re: New computer specs

Randy Barnett <blindmansbluff09@...>

Considering the video recording and use of several programs that can eat cuiu cycles I would go with the I7.

On 8/29/2019 12:36 PM, Aimee wrote:
Hello Everyone,

My name is Aimee and I have just joined this group. Looking forward to sharing knowledge.This topic interest me a good bit. I am starting School soon for computer science. I have some useable vision and will be utilizing a Microsoft surface pro with CCTV software. The CCTV will primarily be used for math and math/statistics classes. Along with the CCTV software package, I will be using Jaws, Duxberry, Kurzweil, open book, word, Excel, outlook, browsing, writing and compiling programs, Various math writing and processing applications, firebird braille graphics, and video recording lectures. I think that is it.  I will frequently be using several of these at the same time  while video recording math lectures.

With that said, I am advocating for the surface with a core i7 and 16 gigs of RAM.  My previous computer has malfunction and is not repairable. I have found a CCTV on the market based off the Microsoft surface. I don't want to have a bazillion different devices. If I can get a portable cctv and computer all in one, I would prefer that. My previous computer was a Lenovo yoga 900 with a core I seven processor and 16 gigs of RAM as well as a 512 GB solid-state hard drive. Thus I feel the core i5 with 8gb of Ram would be going backwards.  I think the core I seven model of the surface will be necessary for productive schoolwork especially considering the simultaneous use of video magnification and distance video recording of lectures along with Jaws and who knows what else at the same time. Am I correct in my assumption of the necessity for the core i 7 16 gigs of RAM surface Pro? I don't necessarily want to go backwards in my equipment either. The Lenovo was purchased in 2016. So, it is not really all that old. I welcome any and all thoughts and suggestions. Is there anyone out there currently engaged in computer science/programming either in school or working who could add some insight here? If yes, please chime in.  All thoughts and insights will be very helpful and greatly appreciated. 


On Aug 29, 2019, at 4:03 AM, Hicks Steven (CORNWALL IT SERVICES) via Groups.Io <steven.hicks@...> wrote:

It largely depends on what you are doing which wil determine the performance impact e.g. if it is a lot of network work, a faster processor won’t necessarily make a huge amount of difference.

If it is a lot of disk IO, an SSD over a traditional drive is likely to make a better performance improvement than a faster processor.



From: [] On Behalf Of Randy Barnett
Sent: 27 August 2019 22:14
Subject: Re: New computer specs


My Dell Aurora R3 from 2010 with a 4th gen I7 running at 4.0GHz with 16GB ram and a SSD is just as fast and capable as my new 8th gen I5 dell XPS with the same specs.

I have 2 other dell laptops and they are over 10 years old now. They are slow and I dont use them anymore but they are still working.

My point is high end PCs from several years ago are still just as capable as ever...

On 8/26/2019 7:32 PM, David Moore wrote:

I bought an low end Asus computer at Walmart, and it is five years old, and is more snappy now than it ever was with new versions of Win10. I quit buying high end computer years ago, because I had the same problem of them falling apart faster than cheap Walmart ones LOL!

I never had a dell last past a few years. My HP and Asus, both dirt cheap, are lasting and working much better than my expensive Dell computers ever did LOL!

David Moore

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From: Andy
Sent: Monday, August 26, 2019 4:33 PM
Subject: Re: New computer specs


In 2012 i bought a high end Dell desktop PC for over a thousand dollars and it lasted 5 years.  in 2017 I read about refurb PCs on and found an HP desktop with 8 GB RAM and an AMD 3.7 GH processor amd a 2 TB HD for $184.  At that price I bought 2, one for me and one for my wife.  After almost 2.5 years, both machines are running like Timex watches.  What I learned is that you should consider your use case.  Most folks buy far more PC than they need, and could save a lot of money that they could use for software, etc.  The other thing I liked about these units was a clean copy of Windows with no bloatware.




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Sent: Saturday, August 24, 2019 10:15 PM

Subject: Re: New computer specs


Hello all:
Tyler, thank you for the insight. I mainly use Microsoft office suite, and browse the web with this unit. I’m looking on I’m looking at a I seven 512 solid-state drive with 16 gig of RAM. And a plain graphics card. That retails for $1200. I’m not looking to spend more than that, and it states it’s a gaming computer. If the unit specs will last me around six years plus I would be very happy with that.

On Aug 24, 2019, at 9:59 PM, Richard Turner <richardturner42@...> wrote:

The only reason to have the faster processors is if you are editing large audio or video files and multitasking with some processor heavy software, which most people do not do.

And, if I remember correctly; which may be a big if, those graphic cards he mentioned have been problematic with Jaws.

Unless he has some software that is requiring it, which would be surprising.

I will never go back to a standard HD drive after using my SSD drive now for a year.




Always look out for #1, and be careful not to step in #2. 


On Aug 24, 2019, at 9:52 PM, Tyler Wood <tcwood12@...> wrote:

This is completely, 100% true.
Although using a solid state drive in 2019 is almost a must - at least for
those that have experienced one. But so far as other sspecs are concerned
there are too many people out there that equate an i7 or i9 to being better
and that simply isn't true for just about 99% of use case scenarios.
Now that I look back at the specs, what are you needing a dedicated Nvidia
Graphics card for in particular? Intel hd graphics does just fine so far as
Jaws is concerned.

-----Original Message-----
From: <> On Behalf Of Glenn / Lenny
Sent: August 24, 2019 11:41 PM
Subject: Re: New computer specs

The suggestion about a 500 GB SSD is totally subjective.
I've seen folks who never use more than 80 to 10 GB of their HD.
Too often people think bigger is better and that is not always the case.
Also, when you look at all the high specs, what are you doing with it all?
I mean, I'll bet 90% of us here don't do any more than read eMail, open some
web pages, open a spread sheet program once in a while, and listen to some
MP3 audio.
All this can be done with 10 year old technology just fine.
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From: "David & his pack of dogs " <myguidedogis@...>
To: <>
Sent: Saturday, August 24, 2019 11:35 PM
Subject: Re: New computer specs

A tech told me anything over 8 Gigs of ram is too much.  I think he was  

dipping into some sort of sauce.  I received what I was told was a  

refurbished Win 10 computer with 250 Gs hard drive.  It turned out to

be a  windows 7 originally and you could make dinner by the time it booted


Thus, I agree with Feliciano.


-----Original Message-----

From: <> On Behalf Of Feliciano G

Sent: August 24, 2019 9:24 PM


Subject: Re: New computer specs


I suggest you upgrade to a 512 GB solid-state drive.



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On Aug 24, 2019, at 9:21 PM, Andrew Diederick




Hello all.

Looking to purchase a new dell laptop computer. Here are the specs:

I9 processor

16 GB ram

256 GB SSD

NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060


I would like this computer to last me about six years. Are all of


specs acceptable for running JFW? Is there anything else that I should

make certain a new laptop has for JFW use?

Appreciate any advise.


Thank you-

















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