moderated Re: New computer specs

Jason White

The reviews at appear to be thorough and informed. It's a good site for anyone contemplating a new laptop.

A screen reader such as JAWS inevitably consumes CPU time and memory resources. If the computer has more capacity than you need (which I would recommend - unless you're planning another purchase in the next three years), then this should raise any problems.

If it fits your budget, a laptop with an NVM Express SSD would be worth investigating. These are, as I understand it, considerably faster than drives connected via a traditional SATA interface. My current Windows laptop has NVM-Express.

-----Original Message-----
From: <> On Behalf Of Tyler Wood
Sent: Sunday, August 25, 2019 1:45 PM
Subject: Re: New computer specs

Hi Andrew,
Sorry for all of the messages from me in particular, but here is an example of a notebookcheck review of, in this case, the Think Book 13s.
Note that each part of the review is separated by headings. There are a few images which you can arrow past in these reviews, but overall you will get an idea.
I hope this helps in your research.

-----Original Message-----
From: <> On Behalf Of David & his pack of dogs
Sent: August 25, 2019 12:31 PM
Subject: Re: New computer specs

Don't worry about it. We are on the same page.

-----Original Message-----
From: <> On Behalf Of Tyler Wood
Sent: August 25, 2019 10:31 AM
Subject: Re: New computer specs

Hello David,
I'm still struggling to understand your point.
They do use it on a daily basis for youtube, Microsoft word/excel, and some music listening. Yet they don't store anything of value on the internal hard drive - their music is streamed via spotify (which, by the way, is accessible with jaws). My point being that use cases are different. I was in no way implying that he shouldn't get a larger drive, but what you or I may do may be far different than what someone else does, and therefore their storage needs might be different. Remember that daily web browsing and light office work doesn't add up to much space used in the grand scheme of things and even in the last 10 years that has hardly changed a bit. A bigger drive doesn't translate to faster speeds, either. Though with the prices of solid state drives decreasing I don't see a problem with 512 gb if you can afford it - years ago that could have made the price skyrocket, not so much anymore.

-----Original Message-----
From: <> On Behalf Of David & his pack of dogs
Sent: August 25, 2019 12:02 PM
Subject: Re: New computer specs

Tylor, sorry your post reminded me of a woman who years ago said she didn't need a car to get around. Why? Because she was getting other people to ferry her around. She was not even taking the bus, others would drive her around in their own vehicles. My cousin told her mother she could get by on
$20 worth of gas per month. She left out the fact that she was getting others to drive her around too. Anyone could make $20 in gas last for a month if it just sat in their drive. My point? If your parents don't use their computer that much they don't need a big hard drive. Btw, I too use an external hard drive and had a SSD installed in this computer, mainly because the drive was so old. It was so old that when I took it to a tech to see if it could be used as an external hard drive, I was told they could not recover anything on it. Which meant it was destined for the garbage, no use could ever be got out of it.

-----Original Message-----
From: <> On Behalf Of Tyler Wood
Sent: August 25, 2019 9:22 AM
Subject: Re: New computer specs

You've certainly got a point there, but your use case may be far different than others. Some people don't use half of 128 gb, for example.
My parents have a Toshiba laptop from 2012 with a 256 gb drive. They haven't used half of it since they've had it - and that also includes their pictures and videos, though those are backed up to an external hard drive, which is my recommendation for most things people would like to keep long term.
That being said if you can afford to get 512 gb, it isn't a bad thing at all since this is an investment of your money and if this is going to be your primary machine, it might be worth your while.

-----Original Message-----
From: <> On Behalf Of Feliciano G
Sent: August 25, 2019 11:04 AM
Subject: Re: New computer specs

256GB is not all that much when you factor in OS/ software, files, media and back ups over a 6 year period. from devices.

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On Aug 25, 2019, at 8:51 AM, Tyler Wood <> wrote:

The GPU does not free up the processor whatsoever and, in fact, is a
completely different animal than a processor.
The GPU in your machine may not, in fact, be used if you are getting
15 hours of batterylife. There is something called Optymous technology
from Nvidia that when used, allows the independent graphics card to
power off while the dedicated Intel HD graphics does its thing, and
that sounds exactly what is going on in your use case.
Few people seem to realize that shift f10 performs the exact same
action as applications key - and barring that, you can use sharp keys
to remap a key to the right of the space bar to that if you so choose.

Regarding the comment about an SSD not lasting long - I have a Toshiba
laptop here from 2012 that still has 85% of its life remaining. In
that time I have had 5 mechanical drives fail, without warning, and
only 2 of which made any actual noise to tell me so. These days if a
laptop or computer in general does not shut down, you will get a
message popping up on screen from your screen reader if you have it
set to run at log on, telling you the following programs are still
running in the background and giving you the option to shut down
anyway or cancel. The benefits of a solid state drive to batterylife
and speed are so beyond amazing compared with a spinning mechanical
drive. Expect the machine to boot in less than 30 seconds regardless
what programs run at startup - add another 15 or 20, maybe, to get
said programs running. You can start using the machine as soon as the
screen reader is running, no more waiting to get to the desktop to
check a simple email or modify one line in a word document. Resuming
sleep happens in less than 1.5 seconds these days.
Far more pluses than drawbacks, in my view.

Just my $.02!

-----Original Message-----
From: <> On Behalf Of Zel Iscel
Sent: August 25, 2019 8:12 AM
Subject: Re: New computer specs

Hi all,

Until recently, I always bought computers with i5 processors but I
find they often lag and Outlook seems to open and close itself
regularly, which is very annoying!

I usually have several docs and several apps open at the same time so
a couple of weeks ago I bought a laptop with an I7 processor and 16 gb
ram. It seems to be working well with minimal lags.

I was considering Dell Latitude and the Lenovo models but they didn't
have all the keys on the keyboard. None of the Lenovo models had an
apps key and I can't remember which key Dell didn't have.

In the end I settled for The ruggedised HP ProBook 640 G4 with 16GB
RAM and upgraded warranty. It has an I7 processor, 16 gb ram, 512 gb
SSD storage, 15 hours battery life, NVDIA graphics card, and all the
keys (except a numpad which I don't need anyway).

It's a little heavier than I was hoping for at 1.8 kg but I'm willing
to sacrifice the weight for a long battery life and an independent
graphics card. NVDIA and AMD are apparently the only two independent
graphics cards that work well with Jaws. I specifically wanted an
independent graphics card in order to free up the processor so I can
do the things I need to do with minimal lags.

I use Microsoft Word, Excel, Powerpoint, Outlook (Including calendar),
and whatever else I need to work with and can access. I also test
websites and some accessibility ttools, though I haven't found any
that I
like yet.

I feel like I'm writing for a job application. Lol! But I hope this
helps you, Andrew, in your decision for a new laptop. Good luck.

-----Original Message-----
From: <> On Behalf Of Sieghard
Sent: Sunday, 25 August 2019 2:25 PM
Subject: Re: New computer specs

That was going to be my comment as well, if all you do is run Windows
10 and maybe Office and you mostly store documents and not thousands
and thousands of pictures or, even worse, videos there is probably no
need for anything larger. Having said this when it comes to price and
what you get for it a 500Gb or, as some manufacturers specify, a 512Gb
SSD seems to be in the sweet spot right now.

-----Original Message-----
From: <> On Behalf Of Glenn /
Sent: Saturday, August 24, 2019 9:41 PM
Subject: Re: New computer specs

The suggestion about a 500 GB SSD is totally subjective.
I've seen folks who never use more than 80 to 10 GB of their HD.
Too often people think bigger is better and that is not always the case.
Also, when you look at all the high specs, what are you doing with it all?
I mean, I'll bet 90% of us here don't do any more than read eMail,
open some web pages, open a spread sheet program once in a while, and
listen to some
MP3 audio.
All this can be done with 10 year old technology just fine.
----- Original Message -----
From: "David & his pack of dogs " <>
To: <>
Sent: Saturday, August 24, 2019 11:35 PM
Subject: Re: New computer specs

A tech told me anything over 8 Gigs of ram is too much. I think he
was dipping into some sort of sauce. I received what I was told was
a refurbished Win 10 computer with 250 Gs hard drive. It turned out
to be a windows 7 originally and you could make dinner by the time
it booted
Thus, I agree with Feliciano.

-----Original Message-----
From: <> On Behalf Of Feliciano
Sent: August 24, 2019 9:24 PM
Subject: Re: New computer specs

I suggest you upgrade to a 512 GB solid-state drive.

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On Aug 24, 2019, at 9:21 PM, Andrew Diederick

Hello all.
Looking to purchase a new dell laptop computer. Here are the specs:
I9 processor
16 GB ram
256 GB SSD
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060

I would like this computer to last me about six years. Are all of
specs acceptable for running JFW? Is there anything else that I
should make certain a new laptop has for JFW use?
Appreciate any advise.

Thank you-

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