this old dog has been useing all lower case for 30 years.  ever since i was
ripped up one side and down the other for yelling at everyone.  back then the
artic vision scsi synthisizer didnt change pitch so i didn't know i left the
caps lock on when i composed a message.

-----Original Message-----
From: Mike B
Sent: Monday, August 19, 2019 8:39 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Esoteric punctuation question.


Hi Net bat,

Only capitalizing all the letters in a word is considered yelling or strong
emphasis on that particular word.  Capitalizing the first letter of a sentence,
names or wherever else capital letters are normally used is just plain correct
punctuation.  Now, how's that for improper English?!  LOL

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go dodgers!
I believe that everything happens for a reason. Usually, the reason is that
somebody screwed up.
----- Original Message -----
From: netbat66
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Sent: Monday, August 19, 2019 7:30 PM
Subject: Re: Esoteric punctuation question.

i stopped useing capital letters years ago because this is considered yelling
at the readers. grin

-----Original Message-----
From: JM Casey
Sent: Monday, August 19, 2019 11:05 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Esoteric punctuation question.

Yes, that's what I just said. If a capital letter is not seen after a period,
it "assumes" that the period is present for some other purpose besides ending a
sentence, and thus does not pause.\
See, it's encouraging us to follow proper grammar/language rules. A good thing,
surely! 8grins*


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of netbat66
Sent: August 19, 2019 1:55 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Esoteric punctuation question.

i know sighted people would complain about puntuation. But the only way i can
get the vocalizer voices to pause at the end of a sentence is to use a comma
instead of a period.
BTW.
i noticed that this message did pause on sentences.
so i investigated. grin. If you don't capatalize the first letter of the
sentence jaws will not pause with the vocalizer voices.

-----Original Message-----
From: Van Lant, Robin via Groups.Io
Sent: monday, August 19, 2019 7:47 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Esoteric punctuation question.



I don’t think Vocalizer is any better.  Much of the time the pause is an
acceptable level, but there are enough times when it’s almost as if there is no
pause at all.  I’ll go back to see if I forgot to type a period and find one
there, but Vocalizer doesn’t pause as I would hope.   I’ll play with the
recommended tweaks someone posted.













From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: Saturday, August 17, 2019 2:33 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Esoteric punctuation question.





I think that a pause after a period is largely synthesiser dependent. So some
synths will insert longer ones, others won’t. By default, the 1core voices from
Microsoft have what is, to me, an insanely lengthy pause between both period
and the next sentence and after a comma. You can adjust this in a very well
hidden and protected ini file. I don’t think Eloquence has anything similar.
Maybe reduce the general speech rate (although I know this isn’t exactly what
you want), or try Vocalizer, or one of the Microsoft voices.







From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of
fenderwal@...
Sent: August 17, 2019 7:05 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Esoteric punctuation question.







Hi, folks.







I decided to get serious about learning JFW. Lots of interesting discoveries,
and, a few puzzles.







Here is one. I noticed that with or without punctuation spoken, JAWS kind of
rushes past what I consider to be normal length punctuation pause intervals.
With Window-Eyes, I was able to put a period character after char.chr
dictionary entries, thereby increasing the pause interval. This does not work
with the JAWS Eloquence voice, however. To my question.







Is there a setting in JAWS to adjust punctuation pause intervals?







Thank you in advance for your help,



Lou N.







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