moderated Re: Jaws does not read the content of screen using jaws cursor.


Mike B.
 


Hi All,
 
This feature has only been in Jaws since Jaws 2018.  Not to create an argument, but only to save people using Jaws versions older than J2018 time or the hassle of searching for this feature in J18, J17... 
 
Steps for creating a toggle keystroke for this feature are below.
To make a keystroke to toggle the, Use Accessibility Driver for Screen Capture, setting on and off try the following:
1. Press, Insert + F2, to open the list of Jaws managers, navigate to Keyboard Manager and press enter.
2. Press the letter, D, until Jaws reports, Default.
3. Tab 1 time into the list of default keystrokes and find the, Toggle Screen Capture Method none, entry.
4. Press, Alt + A, to open the Action menu, you are on, Add Keystroke..., so press enter.  The hotkey to go directly to the, add Keystroke, option is,
Control + A,.
5. You are in a edit field so enter the keystroke you would like to assign to toggle this feature on and off.  Only type the keystroke, example:  Alt,
Control + K.  Hold down the Alt & Control keys and press the letter, K, and don't type anything else but the keystroke you want to use.
6. Tab 1 time and there's a checkbox to assign this keystroke to desktop keystrokes only, that's up to you, but it's checked by default.  Tab to, Okay
and press the spacebar, you'll get a dialogue asking if you're sure that you want to modify the,, Default.JKM, press the spacebar on, Yes, and you're done. 
Now check the keystroke to make sure it works.  You should hear, Using Accessibility Driver On or, Using Accessibility Driver Off, when invoking your keystroke.
 
Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go dodgers!
If at first you DO succeed, try not to look astonished!

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, July 03, 2019 2:25 PM
Subject: Re: Jaws does not read the content of screen using jaws cursor.

This functionality has been there for several versions of Jaws. Vispero is not making a big deal of this because for most users Jaws currently works equally well with or without the accessibility display driver. I pushed quite hard for a layered shortcut key, but instead they made it optional for a shortcut to be created in keyboard manager. The script is called ToggleScreenCapture and of course you need to have the default keyboard manager loaded..

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Maria Campbell
Sent: Wednesday, July 3, 2019 1:34 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws does not read the content of screen using jaws cursor.

 

David, have you suggested this to Vispero directly or in the JAWS users list where Eric Damery lurks?

 

Maria Campbell
lucky1inct@...
 
All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing.
 

On 7/3/2019 3:39 PM, David Goldfield wrote:

It would be helpful if FS could assign a script to this function, along with an associated keyboard shortcut. By default they could have it unassigned to prevent a user from accidentally disabling the display driver. However, this would give users who need to disable and enable the driver the option of going into Keyboard Manager and assigning a key of their choosing as a toggle.

 

David Goldfield, Assistive Technology Specialist WWW.David-Goldfield.Com

On 7/3/2019 1:35 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:

Hi Costas,
 
Well, I'm glad it was such an easy solution and this worked for you.
It's not always so easy, I switch back and forth many times a day between using the accessibility display driver and not using it because even inside one application, my accounting software, some screens don't read at all when it is checked but do when it is not and vice versa.
.
 
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of l. radical
Sent: Tuesday, July 2, 2019 2:12 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws does not read the content of screen using jaws cursor.
 
 Dear Sieghard. I don't find words to thank you very much. Your solution works very fine. Thanks again for your breaf explanation.
regards,
--Kostas--
 
 
2019-07-02 21:07 GMT+03:00, Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@...>:
As much as  you may not like this answer, there may not be a good 
solution for this.
The Jaws cursor under Windows 10 has not nearly as much access to 
information as it did under Windows 7 simply because of how Microsoft 
allows screenreaders to get access to what is on the screen. I use a 
couple of applications at my store for accounting and my point of sale 
where I have similar issues.
Vispero is working on this and you could try and see what happens if 
you turn off the accessibility display driver which is what Jaws has 
been using for a long time to get information. Do the following and 
then open your program and see if it helped:
 
1. Open Jaws Settings Center with Jaws Key + 6 on the number row 2. 
Make sure you have the default settings loaded by pressing Control + 
Shift + D 3. Type "acc" (the first 3 letters of accessibility) in the 
search box, then tab once and you should have the following two 
results:
Speak Access Keys Within Web Pages  checked, Reading
Use Accessibility
Driver for Screen Capture  checked, Miscellaneous  not checked 4. 
Press the spacebar on the second option, Use Accessibility Display 
Driver" to clear the checkbox 5. Tab twice to OK and activate it.
6. Make sure you remember or keep these steps because you may find 
that some applications work better with the old accessibility display 
driver checked and some may work better when it is unchecked.
And there is a bit of good news, Vispero is working on restoring more 
of the old Jaws cursor functionality with the new so-called GDI 
hooking method which is basically what Jaws uses to get information 
when the accessibility display driver is unchecked.
Lastly, you may want to try the touch cursor with your program and see 
if you get anything with that, you can activate it by pressing Shift + 
PC Cursor (Numpad +), press the PC cursor twice quickly to deactivate 
the touch cursor again. You can read more about it here:
Jaws Help > Help topics > Using Jaws > About cursors > Using the Touch 
cursor
 
Regards,
Sieghard
 
Best regards,
Sieghard
 
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of l. radical
Sent: Tuesday, July 2, 2019 12:33 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Jaws does not read the content of screen using jaws cursor.
 
Hello dear listers. For a long time i use a programm in order to 
trader in a exchange platform. The programm run under windows 7 who 
was the operating system using the jaws 15 version. Before few days 
ago i upgrade to windows
10 32 bit using the jaws 2019 version. How ever when i load the same 
programm in the new operating system the jaws does not read any 
content in the screen using the jaws cursor. I am able to read only 
the top and the bottom of the window. Any recomentation for a solution 
is wellcome and thanks for any assistance.
regards,
--Kostas--
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

Join main@jfw.groups.io to automatically receive all group messages.