What about Zero?

Zel Iscel

Hi there,

Does anyone on this list use the Xero accounting software and if so, how accessible is it?

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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of John Covici
Sent: Thursday, 9 May 2019 7:38 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Sage 50


On Wed, 08 May 2019 17:23:57 -0400,
Ann Byrne wrote:

Scripts for Sage or for Quick books???
At 10:32 AM 5/8/2019, you wrote:
The desktop app should do what you want, at least the transaction
entry is accessible, provided you get the scripts from
myblindspot.org .

On Wed, 08 May 2019 11:10:10 -0400,
Sieghard Weitzel wrote:

[1 <text/plain; us-ascii (quoted-printable)>]
[2 <text/html; us-ascii (quoted-printable)>] Absolutely, I had a
lengthy Skype call with Ted a while ago
about Quickbooks Online where he directed me to a demo site to get a
feel for it, but while they are working hard to make Quickbooks
Online more and more accessible I can still
do my entries in Sage 50 10 times as fast. I really would
like to switch, but I own a retail business and after my bookkeeper
who came usually twice a week for 4 or 5 hours retired quite a few
years ago now I decided I would do this
myself and I am dealing with a pretty high volume of
transactions. What I do is quite limited since I don$B!G(Bt use my
accounting software for customers and to keep track of individual
sales and inventory, my point of sale system does that,
but I still have to enter a lot of supplier invoices and
process payments either by printing cheques or recording credit card
or email money transfer payments and two or three times a week I
enter the sales into the accounting system
using a so-called zReport which my point of sale system
[prpoduces and which gives me a summary of sales, returns, layaway
and on account payments, the amounts of what was received by Visa,
Mastercard, Debit Card, American Express, Cash,
Cheque, gift certificates and all that. In any case, Ted
suggested I could use the iOS app which is very accessible, but in
some cases there is a bit of typing involved when I enter the
ddetails of invoices for products we receive and we
all know how efficient typing on an iOS device is compared to
typing on a PC with a keyboard. All in all for me Sage 50 currently
still is the better and more efficient solution although I have few
doubts I will switch to Quickbooks at
some point in the next year or two.



From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Steve
Sent: Wednesday, May 8, 2019 7:46 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Sage 50


And I can only add that Ted Drake has been fantastic when I
have brought up accessibility issues with Quickbooks Online.

All the best


From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: 01 May 2019 18:38
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Sage 50

To me it is very accessible, but I know Sage 50 like the back
of my hand because I have been using it and its previous version,
Simply Accounting, for well over 20 years.

There are things you have to do with the Jaws cursor,
sometimes the touch cursor and under Windows 10 you are generally
better off not to use the traditional accessibility display driver
which is still the default. The new so-called
$B!H(BGDI Hooking$B!I(B method reads more in Sage, for
example, if I lookup a transaction I entered in the purchases
journal or bring up a trial balance or vendor aged report then I can
read this information with the Jaws cursor if I don$B!G(Bt use the
accessibility display driver, if I use it the Jaws cursor
only reads blank. You can of course get around this as well by
bringing up the report and then press Alt + F followed by
$B!H(BO$B!I(B which is the command to $B!H(BOpen in Excel$B!I(B. It
will ask
you to save the file, but once you do Excel opens and loads
whichever report you have on the screen. If I have to really do a
lot of detailed checking of data and maybe search for something this
is my preferred method.

Also, the main screen of Sage does not read at all, this is
where you select if you want to use the General Journal, Bank
Reconciliation, the Purchases or Payments modules/journals etc. I
know that if I open Sage I have to tab 5 times
for the general journal, 6 times for bank reconciliation, 7
times for the Suppliers list, 8 times for purchases and 9 times for

Somebody who wasn$B!G(Bt as familiar with the program and who
tried to use it for the first time would probably be very frustrated
and conclude that it is largely inaccessible.

I haven$B!G(Bt upgraded because I was sick and tired of
paying them hundreds of Dollars every year for their so-called
support which I never use and to get a new version which essentially
was no different than the previous one. I also used to
use their payroll module and during that time I had no choice
because my annual payment also included the updates to the tax
tables for Canada and so on. But for some years now I use a payroll
service called Payworks where all we have to
do is log in and enter each employees hours and they do the
rest. A few days later (I do payroll every 2 weeks) the wages are
auto-deposited into each employees bank account, Payworks does the
monthly payments to the government for
employment insurance, Canada Pension Plan and the income tax
deductions and if an employee quits they file the Record of
Employment and all that. I am a member of the Canadian Federation
for Independent Business and as such I get a
pretty big discount for this service, it only costs I think
$11.95 per pay period (26 per year) and 99 Cents per employee for
the auto deposit etc.

If you need a comprehensive accounting solution and are not
invested in one yet I would absolutely recommend Quickbooks. They
have an accessibility department and have done a lot to make their
online solution which works via a monthly
subscription accessible. If you want to use their desktop
version you do have to pay for scripts which some company developed.
Intuit also sponsors Aira so if you use their software or service
you can call Aira for free to get help with
anything. The person you want to contact about accessibility is Ted Drake:

Ted Drake

Principal Engineer, Intuit Accessibility

Work Phone: 650-944-5265

Cell Phone: 650-245-4825

Email: ted_drake@intuit.com

Twitter: @ted_drake

Best regards,


From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Richard B. McDonald
Sent: Wednesday, May 1, 2019 8:46 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Sage 50

Hi Sieghard!

I noticed in your below that you use Sage 50 Accounting 2014.
How accessible is it with JAWS 2019?



From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2019 8:02 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS Update, J2019.1904.60 Download Link + What's New

I use Outlook and Excel all the time, often have several
Google Chrome tabs/windows open plus usually
Sage 50 accounting and my point of sale software and I often
go weeks without a Jaws crash. I am not saying I have some issues
with Windows 10, I do and they are mostly related to the fact that I
can$B!G(Bt read some stuff with the Jaws
cursor which I used to be able to read under Windows 7, but
strictly from a stability perspective Windows 10 is amazing and
while my 2014 version of Sage 50 does sometimes go down the drain,
Jaws, Excel and Outlook crashes are extremely

I guess everybody$B!G(Bs system is different, I do have a
high-end laptop at home, but at work all 4 PC$B!G(Bs we use there
are mini PC$B!G(Bs, two of them Intel NUC with an I3 and an I5
processor, the other two are HP EliteDesk 800 mini PC$B!G(Bs, one
an I5 and one has an I7 processor. All of them except for the
I3 system run very well, the I3 system which has 12 Gb of RAM is a
bit sluggish even though it does have an Intel SSD, I certainly
would never buy an I3 again..



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Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is:
How do
you spend it?

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