Re: Trouble With Right Alt+Arrow Keys

Tyler Wood

Security is only overhyped. Until it happens to you. Similarly, nobody is going to force anyone else to do what they think is right. But most importantly, you *do not* need a $1000 computer to run Windows 10.


Story time. I used windows XP through its release. I continued using it well after Windows 7 came out and, by the time I had to get a new computer, I was so beyond lost and had hardly anyone to turn to. To them, all of this new, foreign Windows landscape was just a walk in the park. They’d been doing it for years. It got to the point where they just threw a list of resources at me and I was forced to read through them.


It is no longer 2014 – and while it may have only been 5 years since the end of support for Windows xp, a lot has changed since then in the security world and computer world in general.


It amazes me, especially now, when Windows offered a free upgrade to Windows 10, the number of people who find themselves forced into switching over to a newer version of Windows. Then find themselves at a complete and utter disadvantage – not only in figuring out where things are but also in the fact that they’re asking a question on a mailing list, support forum, or phone call that has been answered hundreds of times, in most cases, but they simply didn’t pay attention. It won’t happen to me. I don’t care about Windows 10. So, how do I access the settings? Where is the control panel? What are the new shortcuts? I’ll just delete all of those messages.


At this point, it isn’t as though Windows 10 has life altering negative changes for those using Windows 7. I have it running quite happily here on a computer from 2007 so can we please crush this ridiculous notion that it takes up more resources? Similarly, the negativity surrounding Windows updates. I haven’t had Windows restart unexpectedly on me because of Automatic updates since 2015. I don’t upgrade to the latest and greatest build of Windows 10, but it doesn’t mean I’m going to stop using it. I think it’s great that Windows is finally releasing updates that, in theory, won’t be costing anything and so far as I’m concerned are only adding features that are so badly needed.


If you refuse to embrace the changes coming you’re going to be so behind the curve on the most minuscule changes. Be ready to do tons of research – thus hampering productivity. It isn’t as though the changes are staggeringly huge, but if you’re not using an operating system that came out, at this point, 4 years ago, it isn’t fun, you’ll be frustrated, and hate it even more.


And we’re not even talking about screen reader support, which is doubly important to us. Though, at this point, I suppose if one isn’t wanting to upgrade Windows why would they want to run the latest screen reader (which they’ll certainly have fun with as Web browsers get more and more complicated and involved).


I’m not saying to upgrade a computer, physically. It doesn’t take much to upgrade the operating system it runs on, though, and not doing so now will only put you at a disadvantage later.


Just my thoughts

From: <> On Behalf Of David & his pack of dogs
Sent: April 23, 2019 3:34 PM
Subject: Re: Trouble With Right Alt+Arrow Keys


If cost is a factor you might try and get government funding for a new computer.  There are places that give computers away to those in need.  However, when I took advantage of this, I got a refurbished windows 10 with 250 G internal hard drive. It was slower then molasses in January.  It was then I found out it was a windows 7, upgraded to windows 10. Thus, I scratched up the funds and converted my Mac Book pro, built in 012, to windows 10 and it is a lot faster. The other thing too, was the upgraded windows 7 would get hot within 20 minutes.  The tech said that was normal for an older computer. I did not expect the latest and greatest however, don’t give me a lame horse either.      


From: <> On Behalf Of Randy Barnett
Sent: April 23, 2019 12:53 PM
Subject: Re: Trouble With Right Alt+Arrow Keys


All the hype over security assumes someone wants to hack your system. Most of us don't have anything worth the trouble. In over 25yrs of surfing the net I have never been hacked or know anyone that has. Sure the kids got a virus or two over the years but nothing that really hurt anything and was removed without issue. I run a win 7 machine at the shop and it is not unstable at all. It is just as fast as win10 and doesn't break accessibility on a regular basis. So don't let them brow beat you into spending money you don't have on something you don't really need! I do use a win 10 machine at home and it is fine. Other than re-learning where they hide things on a regular basis it is not all that different than 7. Most of the built in things that aren't very accessible I use 3rd party programs for anyway.
Jaws is not going to stop working on win7 anytime soon either.
On 4/23/2019 9:48 AM, Annabelle Susan Morison wrote:

I'm not willing to change my colors for anyone.


From: [] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2019 7:47 AM
Subject: Re: Trouble With Right Alt+Arrow Keys

I agree with Brian, Windows 7 is a thing of the past and you really should make the jump to Windows 10 whenever it is that you get a new computer. Besides the fact that Windows 7 will have no more support in less than a year, Windows 10 at least by now is so superior to Windows 7 in almost any way, crashes which I had on a very regular bases with Windows 7 are probably reduced by 95% in Windows 10, it’s Stabil and fast and as Brian also said, all screenreader support and development is for Windows 10. You may like things others don’t have, but really, a floppy drive, I mean why on earth would you want a floppy drive? If you have old floppies put what’s on them on a USB stick or an external drive or a DVD, but I’m really curious what the point of one is?

Also, you would be much better off with a 500 Gb or so SSD as your main system drive, then add a good quality hard drive with a larger capacity if you need lots of storage, the system performance will be double or better overall and if you want a fast system you really do need an SSD or your hard drive becomes the proverbial bottle neck in your nice new machine.





From: <> On Behalf Of Annabelle Susan Morison
Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2019 7:38 AM
Subject: Re: Trouble With Right Alt+Arrow Keys


Windows 7 is what I use, so even if support ends, I'll still be happy with what I have.


From: [] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2019 6:59 AM
Subject: Re: Trouble With Right Alt+Arrow Keys

The end of support for Windows 7 is also now only 8 months away, so it makes no sense, if one is going to continue into the future under the Windows ecosystem, to use Windows 7.

The folks that develop JAWS and other screen readers aren't going to "instantly" drop support for Windows 7, but it will eventually be dropped, and probably much faster than support for XP and Vista were dropped during the Windows 7/8/early-10 era given the changes in the underlying architecture of Windows.

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763  
The psychology of adultery has been falsified by conventional morals, which assume, in monogamous countries, that attraction to one person cannot co-exist with a serious affection for another.  Everybody knows that this is untrue. . .

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