Re: pros and cons of Office 365

Richard B. McDonald

Just to clarify what you mean below, in fact "Access 2016" *does* come with Office 2016. Recently, I purchased on eBay for $65 an authentic DVD of MS Office 2016+ Professional (2 PC Install). It has Access 2016.

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From: <> On Behalf Of Kevin Meyers
Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2018 6:12 PM
Subject: Re: pros and cons of Office 365

Thanks for the suggestions. Actually I jus want to get Access 2016. That doesn't come with Office 2016. I will look on Ebay and other places to see if I can find a cheaper price than $129.

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From: <> On Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: Saturday, December 1, 2018 6:44 PM
Subject: Re: pros and cons of Office 365

Yep, all good points that people should generally be aware of.

I got my copy of Office 2016 for $40.
Oh, and in case all that oneDrive storage is an incentive for you -- be aware too that the service has had a number of reported unexpected outages.

-----Original Message-----
From: <> On Behalf Of Kelly Pierce
Sent: December 1, 2018 7:33 PM
Subject: Re: pros and cons of Office 365

If you want MS Office cheap on a DVD, go to eBay. A single PC license of the professional version that includes Access is $84 and a two PC version is $104. The license lasts forever, unlike the $70 a year for Office 365. That’s $140 for just two years and $210 for three years.
If you get Office 365, Microsoft has effectively turned you into a surf.

Another con for Office 365 is the possibility of being removed from the service and having all your files deleted without notice. Section I of the MS services agreement tells users “Don’t do anything illegal.” This would mean that if you told a friend you smoked a joint of marijuana, you violated the services agreement and can have your account suspended. This is because while the substance is legal in some states, it is still illegal on the federal level. Even if someone were using marijuana to cure themselves of cancer, Microsoft doesn’t care. The person was committing an illegal act and therefore has violated the services agreement and deserves to be banned for life. Another doozy is in section vii of the services agreement.
Microsoft tells users to “Don’t engage in activity that is harmful to
you, the Services, or others.” Microsoft gives obvious examples of
nasty and destructive behavior like transmitting viruses, stalking, and posting terrorist content. Another example listed refers to “communicating hate speech, or advocating violence against others.”
The second provision would be extremely troubling if you are a gun owner and possess firearms for personal defense. Advocating for gun rights, stand your ground laws, and laws that eliminate any duty to retreat from an attacker could be considered by some as advocating violence as the person would be using lethal force in defense of his life. Using violence in self-defense is perfectly legal, but it is still advocating violence, according to some on the left. The technology industry has removed many thousands of people from Web-based services, such as Google, Twitter, Facebook and YouTube over issues of hate speech, which the companies never define or explicitly describe. Recently, large numbers of Google Docs users found themselves locked out of their account because an automated system determined they had used the software to create unspecified material that the company considered hate speech. Those blocked include academic scientists and business owners who insisted nothing of a controversial or political nature was stored on Google’s system. The company later acknowledged that a staff programmer made a change to an algorithm that created many hate speech false positives. If you were to buy an Office 2016 DVD, your access to Access, Word and other Office programs will never be denied for grounds of simply having a political opinion, or someone’s arbitrary determination of hate speech or engaging in illegal activity of a law you knew nothing about.


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On 12/1/18, Richard B. McDonald <richardbmcdonald@...> wrote:
In the particular situation for MS Access, you would likely be best
off with Office 365. And, I mean its web-based version not its
desktop version.
That said, in general I have not found Access to be very accessible.
However, I recollect reading something recently about the Office 365
version of Access being substantially more accessible than any desktop
version; including 2016 and 2019. You ought to Google this topic.

From: <> On Behalf Of Kevin
Sent: Friday, November 30, 2018 11:37 AM
Subject: pros and cons of Office 365


I'm using Windows10 and Jaws 2018. I was looking to switch to Office
365. I need to start using Access. I'm looking for the most cost
effective way to get Access. I either go to Office 365 and pay the $70
per year for the personal version. Or purchase a stand alone Access
2016 for $129. What are the pros and cons of using office 365?



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