Re: pros and cons of Office 365

Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@...>

Interesting interpretation regarding the "surf" by which I assume you meant a "serf".
I fail to see the connection between a subscriber which is what you are when you subscribe to Office 365 and a serf which, by definition is an "agricultural laborer bound under the feudal system to work on his lord's estate."
Just because you don't want to pay a subscription for Office 365 which also includes 1 Tb of OneDrive storage, cost for that on Dropbox alone is as much or more than the Office 365 subscription) doesn't mean others find it reduces them to serfdom.


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From: <> On Behalf Of Kelly Pierce
Sent: Saturday, December 1, 2018 7:33 PM
Subject: Re: pros and cons of Office 365

If you want MS Office cheap on a DVD, go to eBay. A single PC license
of the professional version that includes Access is $84 and a two PC
version is $104. The license lasts forever, unlike the $70 a year for
Office 365. That’s $140 for just two years and $210 for three years.
If you get Office 365, Microsoft has effectively turned you into a

Another con for Office 365 is the possibility of being removed from
the service and having all your files deleted without notice. Section
I of the MS services agreement tells users “Don’t do anything
illegal.” This would mean that if you told a friend you smoked a
joint of marijuana, you violated the services agreement and can have
your account suspended. This is because while the substance is legal
in some states, it is still illegal on the federal level. Even if
someone were using marijuana to cure themselves of cancer, Microsoft
doesn’t care. The person was committing an illegal act and therefore
has violated the services agreement and deserves to be banned for
life. Another doozy is in section vii of the services agreement.
Microsoft tells users to “Don’t engage in activity that is harmful to
you, the Services, or others.” Microsoft gives obvious examples of
nasty and destructive behavior like transmitting viruses, stalking,
and posting terrorist content. Another example listed refers to
“communicating hate speech, or advocating violence against others.”
The second provision would be extremely troubling if you are a gun
owner and possess firearms for personal defense. Advocating for gun
rights, stand your ground laws, and laws that eliminate any duty to
retreat from an attacker could be considered by some as advocating
violence as the person would be using lethal force in defense of his
life. Using violence in self-defense is perfectly legal, but it is
still advocating violence, according to some on the left. The
technology industry has removed many thousands of people from
Web-based services, such as Google, Twitter, Facebook and YouTube over
issues of hate speech, which the companies never define or explicitly
describe. Recently, large numbers of Google Docs users found
themselves locked out of their account because an automated system
determined they had used the software to create unspecified material
that the company considered hate speech. Those blocked include
academic scientists and business owners who insisted nothing of a
controversial or political nature was stored on Google’s system. The
company later acknowledged that a staff programmer made a change to an
algorithm that created many hate speech false positives. If you were
to buy an Office 2016 DVD, your access to Access, Word and other
Office programs will never be denied for grounds of simply having a
political opinion, or someone’s arbitrary determination of hate speech
or engaging in illegal activity of a law you knew nothing about.


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On 12/1/18, Richard B. McDonald <> wrote:
In the particular situation for MS Access, you would likely be best off
Office 365. And, I mean its web-based version not its desktop version.
That said, in general I have not found Access to be very accessible.
However, I recollect reading something recently about the Office 365
of Access being substantially more accessible than any desktop version;
including 2016 and 2019. You ought to Google this topic.

From: <> On Behalf Of Kevin Meyers
Sent: Friday, November 30, 2018 11:37 AM
Subject: pros and cons of Office 365


I'm using Windows10 and Jaws 2018. I was looking to switch to Office 365. I
need to start using Access. I'm looking for the most cost effective way to
get Access. I either go to Office 365 and pay the $70 per year for the
personal version. Or purchase a stand alone Access 2016 for $129. What are
the pros and cons of using office 365?



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