locked Re: Covering the Cost of Blindness Technology


Pat Byrne
 

Your arrogance is truly amazing. Who made you God?
Pat ByrneAt 06:43 PM 11/3/2018, you wrote:

it sounds like Peter is trying to covertly pitch a network marketing
scheme. Network marketers are like religious proselytizers. their
offer is shady and they act like parasites.

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On 11/3/18, Dan Longmore <danlongmore44@...> wrote:
Yes, I agree, pricing is now within reach of
many moore people. I forget at
times that development and on going updates takes qualified people and that
costs dollars.

Dan



From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Cristóbal
Sent: Saturday, November 3, 2018 6:17 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Covering the Cost of Blindness Technology



Man, I don’t want to be a Debbie downer,
but no, this doesn’t’ sound sketchy
at all…

As far as the cost of blindness related technology.

While prices for some stuff can still be eye watering, the trend has indeed
gone down. Vispero’s new pricing model being the most recent example of
that. Despite Gerald’s reflexive “The Sky
is Fallingâ€&#65533;, I’m sure the Vispero
folks scratch padded their new structure and after all their number
crunching, they must have been satisfied enough to go forward. Just
spitballing, $90 a month as opposed to one shot deals of $900 with $60
yearly SMAs after that may give them a more solid and consistent revenue
stream. Let folks catch up and give even other people the chance to dip
their toes into the Jaws world and probably end up retaining a lot of them
when it comes time to renew.

Who knows, maybe between NVDA’s
improvements and Microsoft’s Narrator push,
this was the competition that was necessary to finally break down that
initial price barrier for acquiring Jaws.

Newer and cheaper Braille displays are on the
market, OCR solutions aren’t
only confined to K1000 anymore. I mean, you
could get by with the KNFBReader
Windows app that cost $20. ABBY FineReader
too. This isn’t even mentioning
the iOS/mobile stuff.

Stuff sure isn’t suddenly cheap, but man,
it’s not how it used to be before
where unless you had access to a governmental
program, had a family well off
enough to pay for it, maybe pawned off your soul to get financing to buy a
piece of tech or could play with it until you graduated out of school you
were more or less straight out of luck.



Cristóbal



From: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> <main@jfw.groups.io
<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> > On Behalf Of Kevin Meyers
Sent: Saturday, November 3, 2018 2:47 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Re: Covering the Cost of Blindness Technology



Peter,



I would like to talk to you about how you and your wife generate additional
income. I would have sent this email directly
to you and couldn’t find it it
in the string of emails.



How about sending me a email to kevinmeyers@...
<mailto:kevinmeyers@...> .



Cheers,



Kevin



From: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> <main@jfw.groups.io
<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> > On Behalf Of Peter Donahue
Sent: Saturday, November 3, 2018 10:36 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Re: Covering the Cost of Blindness Technology



Good morning everyone,



In compliance with one of our parent company's rules of
conduct and a wish not to clutter up the list with unwanted banquet if you
want additional information please contact me privately. Several folks here
have already done that. We'll be meeting with one of them this afternoon.
All the best.



Peter Donahue







From: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
[mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Cristóbal
Sent: Friday, November 02, 2018 10:59 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Re: Covering the Cost of Blindness Technology



Gimmy some of that special sauce.


On Nov 2, 2018, at 8:34 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <@Sieghard
<mailto:@Sieghard> > wrote:

Hi Peter,



Could you be just a little bit more specific, what you say is pretty vague
like "Mary and I have many ideas for generating additional income streams"
and "Thanks to someone sharing a business idea with us years ago".

What business idea was shared with you? Can you give just some rough
examples of some of these potential income streams? Just curious.

I once read some posts on a different list where somebody was setting up Go
Fund Me campagnes asking for money to buy stuff, hopefully your "business
idea" is di



ferent because to me that is little different from begging. Online fund
raising just as traditional fund raising for a specific purpose where maybe
a family's home burned down or the primary bread winner of the family was
seriously hurt or killed in an accident is fine and I have often
contributed to such fund raisers. But nowadays when you look at Go Fund Me
or other such sites where people beg for money because they want to go on
vacation or because they can't afford something they want then I certainly
wouldn't give them a single Penny. Once a
very very long time ago when I was
very young I fell for one of these get rich schemes with real estate. I
happened to hear this infomercial about this guy who was just itching to
share with everybody how you can get rich in less than a year buy buying
real estate and he showed off all these happy
people who bought his tutorial
for $199 which was only $99 if you acted now and on and on. Of course it
came with a full money back guaranty and naiive as I was I ordered it. It
ended up being like a dozen CD's where he went on and on saying nothing and
repeating himself and it was a complete waste
of time and money. I called to
get my money back but of course because of some condition I forgot I didn't
qualify, basically guys like that are like
the old snakeoil sales people who
sell a cure for something and the only thing it cures is their own wallet.





From: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> <main@jfw.groups.io
<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> > On Behalf Of Peter Donahue
Sent: Friday, November 2, 2018 9:19 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Covering the Cost of Blindness Technology



Good morning everyone,



A lot of blind people also choose not to create income
streams to generate the money to self-fund whatever blindness products and
services they need. Mary and I have many ideas for generating additional
income streams. We have heard nothing but
excuses from blind people we tried
to reach out to to help them improve their financial situation. Thanks to
someone sharing a business idea with us years ago this past January we were
able to buy the latest upgrade of Jaws for Windows, the Dusbury Braille
Translator, and my wife Mary bought herself a Braille-Edge 40 without
seeking help from rehab thank you



Let me shut down some other
rubbish that has come upon other
lists on which we shared these accomplishments. Recall above that we said
we're willing to help others accomplish what we have done to be better
positioned to meet the costs of blindness products and services only to be
told we were braggers, and were called many other names I won't repeat.
Braggers don't reach out to help others
improve their financial situation. I
hate to say it but those with such mindsets and who do nothing but complain
about the high cost of blindness products and
services without being willing
to do something about it have created their own problems. While it's true
society doesn't always have the best attitude towards the blind the blind
themselves are also responsible for their lack of financial resources if
opportunities are placed in their laps and they fail to get on board.



I also want to commend VFO for it's new pricing and
authorization scheme. They have done something to make it easier for blind
people to buy their products. It's now up to blind individuals to seek out
opportunities to develop the needed income streams so they can buy whatever
VFO product they need without having to turn to rehab for help. Again Mary
and I stand ready to assist anyone wishing to
follow our lead so they can do
what we've accomplished. All the best.



Peter Donahue







From: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
[mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Maria Campbell
Sent: Friday, November 02, 2018 10:06 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Re: Need Details On New Annual Jaws Home Subscription



It seems to me that if and when the SMA program is terminated, the least
they can do is discount the licenses with additional years. Has Freedom
Scientific/VFO/Vispero forgotten that most blind people don't have a lot of
money since so many of us are not employed or receive our JAWS from
agencies?





Maria Campbell
lucky1inct@... <mailto:lucky1inct@...>

Somewhere, something incredible is waiting to be known.
~ Blaise Pascal ~


On 11/1/2018 9:53 PM, cecropia64 wrote:

seems to me that this new system is going to be more expensive by a lot.�
With a sma, you are only paying sixty dollars a year.� But if the prices
quoted are correct, you'll be paying ninety dollars a year and it goes up
from there.� What is the purpose of this?�



Stew



On 11/1/2018 9:21 PM, Tom Behler wrote:

Thanks, Michael.

�

It seems to me that this new system will replace the older SMA system.

�

Is this correct?

�

I do have one concern, though.

�

$90 a year doesn�t seem to be that great of a deal, since back in 2016, I
got two years of Jaws for $120, as long as I purchased the license by
December 31.

�

Am I missing something?

�

Tom Behler

�

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From: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Michael Amaro
Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2018 2:23 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Re: Need Details On New Annual Jaws Home Subscription

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From: Tom Behler <mailto:tombehler@...>

Sent: Thursday, November 1, 2018 11:20 AM

To: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>

Subject: Re: Need Details On New Annual Jaws Home Subscription

�

Michael:

�

Where did you get this info?

�

I�m asking because the explanation seemed to end in mid sentence.

�

I�d like to get the full explanation of the various Jaws home options if
possible.

�

Thanks for the help!

�

Tom Behler

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From: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> <main@jfw.groups.io
<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> > On Behalf Of Michael Amaro
Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2018 2:05 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Re: Need Details On New Annual Jaws Home Subscription

�

Stay current with the latest version of JAWS, the world's most popular
screen reader, with an affordable, annual license now available for home
users in the United States. Choose between a one-, three-, or five-year
option, with the ability to easily renew your license at the end of your
initial term.

With a JAWS Home Annual license you will always have the most up-to-date
version of JAWS, and will not have to pay for
an upgrade to get new versions
when they release � you have access to all upgrades released during your
license term. Having access to new versions
of JAWS as they become available
is essential to ensure the ability to use your computer with the continuous
updates of Microsoft Windows�, Microsoft
Office�, your browser, and other
applications you may use.

JAWS License Comparison
<https://www.freedomscientific.com/products/blindness/JAWSLicenseComparison>


What's Next?

After purchasing your JAWS Home Annual license, you will receive an email
with instructions and a link to register on
the Freedom Scientific Licensing
Portal, which allows you to access and manage your software licenses, and
provides a simple way to install and activate your software. Your license
can be installed on up to 3 of your computers and using the portal, you can
easily remove your license from one computer and put it on a new one later.

When registering on the Licensing Portal, make sure to use the same email
address you used to purchase your license; if you have already registered
from previous purchases, simply select the link you receive and sign in �
your license will be available.

JAWS Home is intended for use by end-users for personal, non-commercial use
only and runs on all currently supported versions of the Windows operating
system. Refer

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From: Tom Behler <mailto:tombehler@...>

Sent: Thursday, November 1, 2018 10:53 AM

To: 'jfw list' <mailto:jfw@groups.io>

Subject: Need Details On New Annual Jaws Home Subscription

�

Hello, everyone.

�

I have been reading bits and pieces of info,
but can�t seem to find a nice
concise summary of the new Jaws annual home license that apparently is now
available with the release of Jaws 2019.

�

Jaws 2019 is the last Jaws upgrade on my SMA,
so I will need to do something
to renew it at some point.

�

Up until now, I�ve renewed my Jaws Home SMA
for a two-year period for $120.

�

If there now is a more economical way to do this, I�d certainly love to
learn about it.

�

Dr.� Tom Behler from Michigan

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