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Man, I don’t want to be a Debbie downer, but no, this doesn’t’ sound sketchy at all…
As far as the cost of blindness related technology.
While prices for some stuff can still be eye watering, the trend has indeed gone down. Vispero’s new pricing model being the most recent example of that. Despite Gerald’s reflexive “The Sky is Falling”, I’m sure the Vispero folks scratch padded their new structure and after all their number crunching, they must have been satisfied enough to go forward. Just spitballing, $90 a month as opposed to one shot deals of $900 with $60 yearly SMAs after that may give them a more solid and consistent revenue stream. Let folks catch up and give even other people the chance to dip their toes into the Jaws world and probably end up retaining a lot of them when it comes time to renew.
Who knows, maybe between NVDA’s improvements and Microsoft’s Narrator push, this was the competition that was necessary to finally break down that initial price barrier for acquiring Jaws.
Newer and cheaper Braille displays are on the market, OCR solutions aren’t only confined to K1000 anymore. I mean, you could get by with the KNFBReader Windows app that cost $20. ABBY FineReader too. This isn’t even mentioning the iOS/mobile stuff.
Stuff sure isn’t suddenly cheap, but man, it’s not how it used to be before where unless you had access to a governmental program, had a family well off enough to pay for it, maybe pawned off your soul to get financing to buy a piece of tech or could play with it until you graduated out of school you were more or less straight out of luck.
From: firstname.lastname@example.org <email@example.com> On Behalf Of Kevin Meyers
Sent: Saturday, November 3, 2018 2:47 PM
Subject: Re: Covering the Cost of Blindness Technology
I would like to talk to you about how you and your wife generate additional income. I would have sent this email directly to you and couldn’t find it it in the string of emails.
How about sending me a email to kevinmeyers@....
Good morning everyone,
In compliance with one of our parent company's rules of conduct and a wish not to clutter up the list with unwanted banquet if you want additional information please contact me privately. Several folks here have already done that. We'll be meeting with one of them this afternoon. All the best.
Gimmy some of that special sauce.
On Nov 2, 2018, at 8:34 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@...> wrote:
Could you be just a little bit more specific, what you say is pretty vague like "Mary and I have many ideas for generating additional income streams" and "Thanks to someone sharing a business idea with us years ago".
What business idea was shared with you? Can you give just some rough examples of some of these potential income streams? Just curious.
I once read some posts on a different list where somebody was setting up Go Fund Me campagnes asking for money to buy stuff, hopefully your "business idea" is di
ferent because to me that is little different from begging. Online fund raising just as traditional fund raising for a specific purpose where maybe a family's home burned down or the primary bread winner of the family was seriously hurt or killed in an accident is fine and I have often contributed to such fund raisers. But nowadays when you look at Go Fund Me or other such sites where people beg for money because they want to go on vacation or because they can't afford something they want then I certainly wouldn't give them a single Penny. Once a very very long time ago when I was very young I fell for one of these get rich schemes with real estate. I happened to hear this infomercial about this guy who was just itching to share with everybody how you can get rich in less than a year buy buying real estate and he showed off all these happy people who bought his tutorial for $199 which was only $99 if you acted now and on and on. Of course it came with a full money back guaranty and naiive as I was I ordered it. It ended up being like a dozen CD's where he went on and on saying nothing and repeating himself and it was a complete waste of time and money. I called to get my money back but of course because of some condition I forgot I didn't qualify, basically guys like that are like the old snakeoil sales people who sell a cure for something and the only thing it cures is their own wallet.
Good morning everyone,
A lot of blind people also choose not to create income streams to generate the money to self-fund whatever blindness products and services they need. Mary and I have many ideas for generating additional income streams. We have heard nothing but excuses from blind people we tried to reach out to to help them improve their financial situation. Thanks to someone sharing a business idea with us years ago this past January we were able to buy the latest upgrade of Jaws for Windows, the Dusbury Braille Translator, and my wife Mary bought herself a Braille-Edge 40 without seeking help from rehab thank you
Let me shut down some other rubbish that has come upon other lists on which we shared these accomplishments. Recall above that we said we're willing to help others accomplish what we have done to be better positioned to meet the costs of blindness products and services only to be told we were braggers, and were called many other names I won't repeat. Braggers don't reach out to help others improve their financial situation. I hate to say it but those with such mindsets and who do nothing but complain about the high cost of blindness products and services without being willing to do something about it have created their own problems. While it's true society doesn't always have the best attitude towards the blind the blind themselves are also responsible for their lack of financial resources if opportunities are placed in their laps and they fail to get on board.
I also want to commend VFO for it's new pricing and authorization scheme. They have done something to make it easier for blind people to buy their products. It's now up to blind individuals to seek out opportunities to develop the needed income streams so they can buy whatever VFO product they need without having to turn to rehab for help. Again Mary and I stand ready to assist anyone wishing to follow our lead so they can do what we've accomplished. All the best.
It seems to me that if and when the SMA program is terminated, the least they can do is discount the licenses with additional years. Has Freedom Scientific/VFO/Vispero forgotten that most blind people don't have a lot of money since so many of us are not employed or receive our JAWS from agencies?
Somewhere, something incredible is waiting to be known.
~ Blaise Pascal ~
On 11/1/2018 9:53 PM, cecropia64 wrote:
seems to me that this new system is going to be more expensive by a lot.� With a sma, you are only paying sixty dollars a year.� But if the prices quoted are correct, you'll be paying ninety dollars a year and it goes up from there.� What is the purpose of this?�
On 11/1/2018 9:21 PM, Tom Behler wrote:
It seems to me that this new system will replace the older SMA system.
Is this correct?
I do have one concern, though.
$90 a year doesn�t seem to be that great of a deal, since back in 2016, I got two years of Jaws for $120, as long as I purchased the license by December 31.
Sent: Thursday, November 1, 2018 11:20 AM
Subject: Re: Need Details On New Annual Jaws Home Subscription
Where did you get this info?
I�m asking because the explanation seemed to end in mid sentence.
I�d like to get the full explanation of the various Jaws home options if possible.
Thanks for the help!
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Sent: Thursday, November 1, 2018 10:53 AM
Subject: Need Details On New Annual Jaws Home Subscription
I have been reading bits and pieces of info, but can�t seem to find a nice concise summary of the new Jaws annual home license that apparently is now available with the release of Jaws 2019.
Jaws 2019 is the last Jaws upgrade on my SMA, so I will need to do something to renew it at some point.
Up until now, I�ve renewed my Jaws Home SMA for a two-year period for $120.
If there now is a more economical way to do this, I�d certainly love to learn about it.
Dr.� Tom Behler from Michigan