-----Original Message-----
From: Don H
Sent: Friday, November 02, 2018 3:48 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Need Details On New Annual Jaws Home Subscription

Tried to subscribe to the list you listed and got no confirmation that I
had joined as you usually do.

On 11/2/2018 12:05 PM, Pat Seed wrote:

Hi Everyone,
So, if people want to be in contact with Eric Damery, and if they want the latest JAWS information, and to participate in JAWS discussions, why don't they subscribe to the (jaws-users) list.

The subscribe address is:

jaws-users-list+subscribe@groups.io

Take care and talk soon.

Blessings and All the Very Best,
Pat Seed


----- Original Message ----- From: "Gerald Levy" <bwaylimited@verizon.net>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, November 02, 2018 12:44 PM
Subject: Re: Need Details On New Annual Jaws Home Subscription

The list I am talking about is the JAWS Users list, which he apparently
recognizes as the "official" JAWS list and to which he is a frequent
contributor. This list has as much, if not more, traffic than the JFW
list, and is more tightly monitored. He has never posted on the JFW list,
as far as I am aware.

Gerald



-----Original Message----- From: Mario
Sent: Friday, November 02, 2018 12:27 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Need Details On New Annual Jaws Home Subscription

and what list is that? I only know of this list and another one that I
can't recall what it is. is there much traffic on the list Eric posted
too?
-------- Original Message --------
From: Gerald Levy [mailto:bwaylimited@verizon.net]
Sent: Friday, Nov 2, 2018 12:16 PM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Need Details On New Annual Jaws Home Subscription


According to a message Eric Damery just posted on the other JAWS list,
the management of Vispero is very optimistic about its future prospect
and he believes that the company will be around for a long time. Of
course, this is somewhat self-serving, so you can take his reassurances
with a grain of salt.

Gerald



-----Original Message----- From: Maria Campbell
Sent: Friday, November 02, 2018 12:04 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Need Details On New Annual Jaws Home Subscription

I think you are wrong, and the SMA will go the way of the dinosaur, and
very soon, too. It seems that Vispero has now become a money-making
operation, rather than what Henter and Joyce had in mind, which was to
help blind people with accessibility as inexpensively as possible. They
were blind and understood that most blind people don't have a lot of
money, a concept lost on the new owners of the company. To me, an old
lady using JAWS for a very long time, JAWS still is the best screen
reader out there. However, as the price increases, it becomes more and
more cost prohibitive, to the point where I may have to give it up for
something in the open source market, something I'm going to more and
more. I'm wondering if Vispero realizes, or cares, that they are
losing more and more of their long-time customers to their
competition--Narrator, NVDA, etc. In my humble opinion, their new
pricing structure is pushing away, rather than attracting customers.



Maria Campbell
lucky1inct@gmail.com

Somewhere, something incredible is waiting to be known.
~ Blaise Pascal ~

On 11/2/2018 9:24 AM, cecropia64 wrote:
Absolutely! My thoughts exactly. But if you only plan on either
trying Jaws for a year or don't plan on keeping up on all versions
then the license program seems to be a good alternative.


On 11/2/2018 9:21 AM, Mario wrote:
in addition, I don't think that the SMA scheme will ever be replaced,
and I sincerely hope it never does. there is no harm in keeping the SMA
scheme for those who keep their use of JAWS versions up to date.


-------- Original Message --------
From: Alan Robbins via Groups.Io [mailto:alan1057=me.com@groups.io]
Sent: Friday, Nov 2, 2018 6:45 AM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Need Details On New Annual Jaws Home Subscription

From what I have read, as well as listened to from Freedom scientific
staff and podcast, it would cost you $90 and it would be that recurring
charge each year to keep a current license to have jaws installed and up
to three computers.

On Nov 2, 2018, at 6:23 AM, Gerald Levy <bwaylimited@verizon.net
<mailto:bwaylimited@verizon.net>> wrote:

I’m confused. Suppose I wanted to upgrade from JAWS 16, which is
the version I am currently using, to JAWS 2019. Are you saying that
under the new licensing arrangement I would only have to pay $90 for
the upgrade, versus about $480 if I went the SMA route? Or would I
have to pay $270 to cover JAWS versions 17,18, and 2018, on top of the
$90 for JAWS 2019? Please clarify.
Gerald
*From:* Sieghard Weitzel <mailto:sieghard@live.ca>
*Sent:* Thursday, November 01, 2018 11:12 PM
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: Need Details On New Annual Jaws Home Subscription

I think this is also an offer which would make it much less expensive
for somebody who didn’t keep their SMA up-to-date to get current on
Jaws. If, for example, somebody was still on Jaws 16 or even earlier
they would have to pay several hundreds of Dollars to get current and
then another $120 for the SMA. This way they can just subscribe for
$90 a year and they are done. What I haven’t figured out yet is if
this also applies for new Jaws users, e.g. if you don’t have Jaws at
all, can you just pay $90 a year and download/use the latest version
of Jaws and as long as you keep you rsubscription active then you can
continue to do so? If so then this really is a good option for new
Jaws users because instead of paying $900 or whatever Jaws costs + the
cost of future SMA’s they would djust pay $90 a year. After 10 years
you would have paid $900 which is I believe what Jaws Home costs, if
you had bought it for $900 and then you would buy 5 SMA’s at $120/each
you would have paid $1,500 after 10 years so if you are a new Jaws
user then $90 a year really is a very reasonable price and who knows
what happens in 5 or 6 let alpong 8 or 10 years, maybe Jaws won’t
exist any more as such, maybe Microsoft buys them out and it gets
merged with Narrator into Microsoft and becomes free, I certainly
wouldn’t bet on Jaws being the leading screenreader in 10 years any
more.

*From:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
<main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>> *On Behalf Of *Chris
Hill
*Sent:* Thursday, November 1, 2018 7:37 PM
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: Need Details On New Annual Jaws Home Subscription

It sounds like it would be a bit more flexible since you don't have to
fight with the activation as much if you use a lot of different
computers, but otherwise it looks like a way to generate more
revenue. I just renewed my SMa, they will have a little while longer
to wait for my extra revenue.

CH

On 11/1/2018 20:53, cecropia64 wrote:

seems to me that this new system is going to be more expensive by
a lot.� With a sma, you are only paying sixty dollars a year.�
But if the prices quoted are correct, you'll be paying ninety
dollars a year and it goes up from there.� What is the purpose
of this?�

Stew

On 11/1/2018 9:21 PM, Tom Behler wrote:

Thanks, Michael.

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system.

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back in 2016, I got two years of Jaws for $120, as long as I
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*From:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
mailto:main@jfw.groups.io *On Behalf Of *Michael Amaro
*Sent:* Thursday, November 01, 2018 2:23 PM
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: Need Details On New Annual Jaws Home
Subscription

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*From:* Tom Behler <mailto:tombehler@gmail.com>

*Sent:* Thursday, November 1, 2018 11:20 AM

*To:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>

*Subject:* Re: Need Details On New Annual Jaws Home
Subscription

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*From:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
<main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>> *On Behalf Of
*Michael Amaro
*Sent:* Thursday, November 01, 2018 2:05 PM
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: Need Details On New Annual Jaws Home
Subscription

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Stay current with the latest version of JAWS, the world's most
popular screen reader, with an affordable, annual license now
available for home users in the United States. *Choose between
a one-, three-, or five-year option*, with the ability to
easily renew your license at the end of your initial term.

With a JAWS Home Annual license you will always have the most
up-to-date version of JAWS, and will not have to pay for an
upgrade to get new versions when they release � you have
access to all upgrades released during your license term.
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is essential to ensure the ability to use your computer with
the continuous updates of Microsoft Windows�, Microsoft
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*What's Next?*

After purchasing your JAWS Home Annual license, you will
receive an email with instructions and a link to register on
the Freedom Scientific Licensing Portal, which allows you to
access and manage your software licenses, and provides a
simple way to install and activate your software. Your license
can be installed on up to 3 of your computers and using the
portal, you can easily remove your license from one computer
and put it on a new one later.

When registering on the Licensing Portal, make sure to use the
same email address you used to purchase your license; if you
have already registered from previous purchases, simply select
the link you receive and sign in � your license will be
available.

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non-commercial use only and runs on all currently supported
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*From:* Tom Behler <mailto:tombehler@gmail.com>

*Sent:* Thursday, November 1, 2018 10:53 AM

*To:* 'jfw list' <mailto:jfw@groups.io>

*Subject:* Need Details On New Annual Jaws Home Subscription

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Hello, everyone.

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I have been reading bits and pieces of info, but can�t seem
to find a nice concise summary of the new Jaws annual home
license that apparently is now available with the release of
Jaws 2019.

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Jaws 2019 is the last Jaws upgrade on my SMA, so I will need
to do something to renew it at some point.

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Up until now, I�ve renewed my Jaws Home SMA for a two-year
period for $120.

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certainly love to learn about it.

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