locked Re: Need Details On New Annual Jaws Home Subscription
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It is my understanding that you just pay $90 a year ongoing. I don't think you can pay $90 and go from Jaws 16 to Jaws 2019 and then buy an SMA for $120 to cover Jaws 2020 and 2021 and that of course makes sense. Maybe at some point Vispero will post something to clarify this or maybe they just explain it to you if you call them which really is what you should do because anything you hear on the list will be either based on people's interpretation based on what they read or heard or it will be based on somebody else explaining it after callingVispero and while this could be entirely correct there is still a chance that person misunderstood how this works and hence provides incorrect information. To me it makes sense if Vispero at some point decides to retire the SMA option and everybody goes to a subscription model even if it's a couple of bucks a month more, but then I don't know this. But as I said before, if they are in fact offering somebody who is way behind or somebody who wants to get Jaws for the very first time to do this for $90 a year then this is in fact a great deal. I gave the example before for a new Jaws user provided my recollection that Jaws Home used to cost $900 to buy and that was without SMA, with SMA is would be $900 + $120 for a total of $1,020. Let's assume somebody buys Jaws 2019 for the first time and they also buy the SMA which gives them Jaws 2020 and Jaws 2021 and that this in fact does cost $1,020. Then let's say they buy 4 more SMA's over the years like this:
Now (in 2018): Initial purchase of Jaws 2019 with SMA to cover Jaws 2020 and 2021 for $1,020. Fall of 2019: use 1 SMA for Jaws 2020 Fall of 2020: use 1 SMA for Jaws 2021, the initial 2 SMA's are now used up, buy 2 SMA's again for $120 to cover Jaws 2022 and Jaws 2023, you now spend a total of $1,140 Fall of 2021: use 1 SMA for Jaws 2022 Fall of 2022: use 1 SMA for Jaws 2023, these SMA's are now used up, purchase 2 more for $120 covering Jaws 2024 and Jaws 2025, you now spent $1,260 Fall of 2023: use 1 SMA for Jaws 2024 Fall of 2024: use 1 SMA for Jaws 2025, SMA's are now used up, again buy 2 more for $120 to cover Jaws 2026 and Jaws 2027, you now spent $1,380.00 Fall of 2025: use 1 SMA for Jaws 2026 Fall of 2026: use 1 SMA for Jaws 2027, SMA's are now used up, buy 2 more for $120 to cover Jaws 2028 and Jaws 2029, you now spend $1,500. Fall of 2027: use 1 SMA for Jaws 2028 Fall of 2028: used 1 SMA for Jaws 2029, SMA's are now used up The above describes what a new Jaws user would spend over a 10-year time span, it's the initial purchase for $900 + 5 SMA packages for $120/each for a total of $600 so all in all $1,500 are spent. If said user can subscribe to Jaws for $90/year over 10 years the cost would be $900 which is the original purchase price of Jaws and a 40% discount over the current model. We all purchased Jaws at some point although I guess in some cases somebody may have had funding to buy it, but maybe not to keep the SMA's up to date. In any case, the person who bought Jaws 10 years ago and kept their SMA's up to date would have still paid $1,500 assuming Jaws cost the same $900 10 years ago and SMA's always cost $120 for 2 SMA's, but I don't think that has changed much. Of course for existing users who are current on their SMA's it is less expensive to continue to buy them as long as Vispero offers that option, but of course we just won't know this and as a business person myself I do understand that at some point costs go up for everything. If Vispero decides that basically charging$60 a year does not cover their costs and that by going to a $90 a year subscription model for all users they can better operate and predict their cash flow then I am totally OK with that even though I once paid a bunch of money up front 30 years ago which a new user now doesn't have to pay. I also bought many versions of Office for hundreds of Dollars and now I simply pay $99 a year for my Office 365 Home subscription whereas the new computer user who has only been around since Office 365 subscriptions have been offered never paid more than $99 a year… so what. Let's not forget that Vispero is a large organisation with probably hundreds of employees, many of whom are blind and who all want to get a paycheque every 2 weeks. They need to have a substantial building, pay for utilities and the usual collection of other costs every business has. NVDA is a project where many volunteers offer their time and expertise yet they also have costs for server space and all that and without donations NVDA would long since have disappeared.
Regards, Sieghard
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Gerald Levy
Sent: Friday, November 2, 2018 3:24 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Need Details On New Annual Jaws Home Subscription
I’m confused. Suppose I wanted to upgrade from JAWS 16, which is the version I am currently using, to JAWS 2019. Are you saying that under the new licensing arrangement I would only have to pay $90 for the upgrade, versus about $480 if I went the SMA route? Or would I have to pay $270 to cover JAWS versions 17,18, and 2018, on top of the $90 for JAWS 2019? Please clarify.
Gerald
From: Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2018 11:12 PM Subject: Re: Need Details On New Annual Jaws Home Subscription
I think this is also an offer which would make it much less expensive for somebody who didn’t keep their SMA up-to-date to get current on Jaws. If, for example, somebody was still on Jaws 16 or even earlier they would have to pay several hundreds of Dollars to get current and then another $120 for the SMA. This way they can just subscribe for $90 a year and they are done. What I haven’t figured out yet is if this also applies for new Jaws users, e.g. if you don’t have Jaws at all, can you just pay $90 a year and download/use the latest version of Jaws and as long as you keep you rsubscription active then you can continue to do so? If so then this really is a good option for new Jaws users because instead of paying $900 or whatever Jaws costs + the cost of future SMA’s they would djust pay $90 a year. After 10 years you would have paid $900 which is I believe what Jaws Home costs, if you had bought it for $900 and then you would buy 5 SMA’s at $120/each you would have paid $1,500 after 10 years so if you are a new Jaws user then $90 a year really is a very reasonable price and who knows what happens in 5 or 6 let alpong 8 or 10 years, maybe Jaws won’t exist any more as such, maybe Microsoft buys them out and it gets merged with Narrator into Microsoft and becomes free, I certainly wouldn’t bet on Jaws being the leading screenreader in 10 years any more.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Chris Hill
It sounds like it would be a bit more flexible since you don't have to fight with the activation as much if you use a lot of different computers, but otherwise it looks like a way to generate more revenue. I just renewed my SMa, they will have a little while longer to wait for my extra revenue.
CH On 11/1/2018 20:53, cecropia64 wrote:
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