Re: firefox w/ latest jfw 2018.1808
JM Casey <crystallogic@...>
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FS has done it. Just for JAWS 2018 though.
It would have been nice if they had given that functionality to JAWS 18 users, at least, but I guess that isn’t their business policy. JAWS 18 stopped being updated sometime late last year and they decided not to include functionality for Firefox. So yes, they are basically forcing you to upgrade if you want to continue using FF in combination with JAWS.
NVDA had some hitches at first but when I tried it with Firefox 57, the first “quantum” release, I thought it worked rather well, and apparently it’s only gotten better since. I have Firefox 60 on my system now but haven’t tested it for much. Because I’m still kind of stuck on JAWS, you see. *grins*
I’m surprised, I didn’t realise there were so many people here using JAWS versions other than 2018. Thought I was one of the few. I just caved and bought an upgrade. Luckily I was still able to use the plan from my old work.
From: firstname.lastname@example.org <email@example.com> On Behalf Of Marty Hutchings
Sent: September 7, 2018 7:38 PM
Subject: Re: firefox w/ latest jfw 2018.1808
What is really silly is the fact that NVDA has this figured out whereas a behemath like Freedom Scientific can’t do it. Or is there some kind of politics involved where FS just won’t do it.
Love in Christ
Yes, it’s silly.
The way I see it though you have two options if you want to continue using Firefox.
Upgrade JAWS, or use another screen-reader.
NVDA works extremely well, you will just have to get used to it.
You could also try Chrome. It still works with JAWS 18, at least, as far as I know., and it is fast and snappy.
So yes, there are always options.
This stuff with Firefox did not come out of the blue. We had over a year to prepare for Quantum if we were on the ESR branch.
i thank you all for your suggestions, but this is silly. I’m not paying another $1,000 for a JFW version just to get Firefox to work. There has to be another browser that works with the version that I have. Could someone please send me the executable for a browser that I can install. Don’t send a link, as I do not have internet.
Love in Christ
So the only reasonable choice really seems to be, stop using firefox, or use NVDA.
Or pay for another JAWS upgrade of course. Which I actually just did. Can’t say it was just for the sake of Firefox (there are other browsers after all) but it definitely helped give me a little push.
If you are using the ESR version of Firefox, and you don’t turn off the updates, it will eventually update to version 60 ESR, and that one won’t work unless you have JAWS 2018.
But, if you do that, I don’t think you’ll receive security and maintenance updates either. Given all the vulnerabilities in browsers that are getting reported these days (saw one about firefox just this morning), I don’t know that that’s a good idea. I personally had mine set to ask me to update, but I never deferred the updates for too long for this reason.
You can go in to the options and turn off automatically update.
Thanks for providing those links, but, unless I’m wrong, once installed, those Firefox 52 versions will try to update to 60, which is the version the ESR branch is currently on. This was what we were warned about last year; we could continue to use ESR until September of 2018, at which point it would also be switched to Quantum. This has now happened to me.
Hi, Marty. In order for you to use JAWS with Firefox 60 and up, you need the latest version of JAWS, which is JAWS 2018. JAWS 16, 17, and 18 are incompatible with Firefox 60 and up. These versions of Firefox are called Quantum. They contain a version of Sandbox which causes Firefox not to be able to react with JAWS versions earlier than 2018. They had to do some intensive reworking of JAWS to get it to function properly with the newer versions of Firefox. In order for you to use Firefox with JAWS 18, you would need to install an earlier version of Firefox ESR. I will provide a couple of links to the 32-bit and 64-bit versions of Firefox ESR in case you wish to downgrade your version of Firefox.
Firefox ESR 52, English US 32-bit:
Firefox ESR 52, English US 64-bit:
HI, I am new to this group and am having a similar issue with JAWS and Firefox. When I open Firefox, I get a message saying that Tabs are incompatible with my adaptive software or my version of Firefox. I have installed JFW 18 and Firefox 62. There is no problem using NVDA and Firefox. What is going on here? Is it a Windows problem? I am still running Windows 7.
Love in Christ
Hi. Another thing I have found is that, if you uninstall Firefox, old profiles are left behind. So, I had to go into
and delete all the old profiles which were left behind.
I was wondering if you have noticed with firefox 61, and now 62 that jfw locks up or I guess firefox locks up all of the time, it happens randomly, but it happens so much that I made chrome my default web browser.
Has anyone experienced this?
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