Re: speaking passwords

David & his pack of dogs

As a method of levity on this topic.  Here is a true story.  A man had a parrot and the man gave his credit card # over the phone to an agency.  As time went by he sold the parrot to someone else.  Thankfully she was a Bank of America employee.  Why?  Because the parrot resighted the man’s credit card number verbatim including the security code on the back to her. 


From: <> On Behalf Of Gene Stevens
Sent: August 18, 2018 9:14 PM
Subject: Re: speaking passwords


That is quite different than not being able to type the password due to blindness or lack of typing skills. And in your case I wouldn’t have hired you in the first place. I ran an IT business and we all did a lot of typing .


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From: Don H
Sent: Saturday, August 18, 2018 9:16 PM
Subject: Re: speaking passwords


Let us see I am a former aerospace Engineer and hold a masters in

computer science.  My old fingers are stiff in my old age from all the

typing I have done in the past.


On 8/18/2018 7:50 PM, Gene Stevens wrote:

> As a blind person and former employer there is no way I’d allow this at

> my work place. If you can’t remember and type your password well enough

> to not hear it echoed back to you you aren’t computer literate enough to

> hold the job you have.


> Sent from Mail <> for

> Windows 10


> *From: *Brian Vogel <mailto:britechguy@...>

> *Sent: *Saturday, August 18, 2018 4:48 PM

> *To: * <>

> *Subject: *Re: speaking passwords


> On Sat, Aug 18, 2018 at 04:34 PM, Bill White wrote:


>     By the way, Brian, we’re not asking that the passwords be shown on

>     the screen, only key echoed, the same way keys are echoed when we

>     have JAWS set to echo characters.


> I understand precisely what's being asked for, and it should not be

> provided if one has a scintilla of concern for keeping passwords secure.


> After 35 years in IT, and witnessing firsthand all the things that

> "can't happen" and "shouldn't happen," particularly when there is the

> high potential for human error, one puts in place roadblocks to

> precisely that kind of error.


> Anyone, and I do mean anyone, should be able to remember their own

> chosen password or use a password manager.


> The convenience of hearing one's keystrokes echoed with the letters

> struck for a password field cannot be justified, though as I've

> witnessed, repeatedly, many will try.


> --


> Brian *-*Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134


> /The real art of conversation is not only to say the right thing in the

> right place but to leave unsaid the wrong thing at the tempting moment./


>            ~ Dorothy Nevill







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