-------- Original Message --------
From: cecropia64 [mailto:cecropia64@...]
Sent: Tuesday, Jul 31, 2018 10:29 AM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: shut down sound for windows 10

It's not like they have to change the program or add any major increase
in size or anything.  Just put the sounds back where they used to be. I,
personally, want to make my own choices and want the sounds there. If I
choose to disable them, it's my own choice.  But I'd like to have a
choice to make and not have someone else do the choice making for me.


On 7/31/2018 10:11 AM, Gerald Levy wrote:
But even with JAWS 2018, there is still no shutdown sound in Windows
10.  The way I see it, if MS has decided to eliminate the shutdown
sound, then it might aswell eliminate all system sounds.  What’s the
point of keeping some sounds while eliminating others?
Gerald
*From:* David Ingram <mailto:dingram269@...>
*Sent:* Tuesday, July 31, 2018 10:03 AM
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: shut down sound for windows 10
jaws version 16. If you're using jaws 2018 then you should be able to
hear all of your system sounds with jaws. This doesn't mean that jaws
16 will not work with this latest update of windows 10. It actually does.

    -----Original Message-----
    From: Jonas Voll
    Sent: Jul 31, 2018 8:56 AM
    To: "main@jfw.groups.io"
    Subject: Re: shut down sound for windows 10

    I do not like other people making Decisions for myself!

    Free will, is what I want!

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    *From:*main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> *On Behalf Of
    *Brian Vogel
    *Sent:* Tuesday, July 31, 2018 8:41 AM
    *To:* main@jfw.groups.io
    *Subject:* Re: shut down sound for windows 10

    On Tue, Jul 31, 2018 at 09:16 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:

        I disagree with that statement about Microsoft not caring
        about accessibility.

    As does anyone who pays the slightest bit of attention.   The
    creation of Narrator, and the degree of ongoing development of
    same, marked a tectonic shift in Microsoft's attitude toward
    accessibility.

    Although I loved the shutdown sound, and see why it can be useful,
    even on a laptop there are easy ways to tell if a computer is shut
    down or not.  Just place your hand near the fan exit vent and you
    will feel the stream of air, which is usually significantly warmer
    than any room temperature, cease flowing upon complete shutdown,
    as the fans are the last thing to shut down.

    The shutdown sound is a triviality in the world of accessibility.
    Pick your battles.

    --
    Brian *-*Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134

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    tempting moment./

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