Re: [Bulk] Dragon and JAWS 133


Peter Holdstock <ptrholdstock@...>
 

Hi, I don't think the correction box is so important now that it learns from keyboard corrections i.e. just edit the word it got wrong in your document and it should learn that. I also found with JAWS 13 that the screen reader menu option didn't make any difference and it does say in the help to use that option if your having problems so see how you get on.

But great info so thanks for that.

Peter

Peter

-----Original Message-----
From: Marquette, Ed
Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2011 8:07 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: RE: [Bulk] Dragon and JAWS 133

Hello:
Assuming you are installing this on your own machine and do not have to worry about an information technology department's oppressive security settings, everything should be pretty straightforward.
Sighted assistance is not necessary; however, it could be a comfort. You will be asked to identify your sound system. Dragon will help, but you should know something about your system.
Peter seems to have had good luck with the built in sound facility on his laptop. I have never been able to get a built-in sound system on a laptop to work; however, I have used nothing but ThinkPad laptops for the past 15 years. They are good machines, but this is not my choice.
Be sure to position the headset microphone properly. It should be in front of your mouth and about one inch away. A little variation doesn't matter, but if you have a swivel boom and the microphone is on top of your head, the results will be disastrous.
You will be asked to check the volume of your sound system. In that step of the installation, it really does not matter what you say. You can recite a nursery rhyme.
In the next step in the installation, the sound systems quality is checked. There, it is probably better to read what is on the screen. For this, you will need to use the JAWS cursor. The text is only about two sentences. So, this is not a big deal.
By far, the most important thing to remember is to go through the settings. You need to be sure that Dragon Naturally Speaking is running out of the system tray.
Most of the other settings are a matter of personal preference, and for many, the default settings work fine.
There is an option to turn on screen reader menus. Be sure that option is checked.
There is also a section to assign hotkeys. I do not particularly like the default hotkeys. I rarely use the "wake-up" and "go to sleep" commands. I usually turn the microphone on and off with a hotkey, in my case, shift plus F-11.
Where you encounter words that Dragon does not understand, be sure to highlight the word or phrase. Then, say "correct that." This should open up a dialogue box. The first item in the dialog box is an edit box. There, you can type in the correct spelling of the word that Dragon messed up. If you hit tab on the edit box, you will be presented with a list of choices. You can arrow down to the proper choice and hit enter, or you can simply say "choose one" or "choose three" or whatever the item you want to select is listed as.
I like to use the list when it works; however, for strange proper names, Dragon probably won't be able to suggest anything helpful. Then, when you type in the word, you can either just press enter or preferably, you should tab over to training. To start training, say the word, and then press on the "done" button.
Dragon will remember your word, even if it is a really strange one.
Remember, you can get help. Probably the easiest to remember is, "what can I say." I think you can also say "show me a list of commands" or "show me help."
Use the Jaws task switching key, shift plus F-10. The Dragon Side-Bar will show up. You can also just say "Dragon Side Bar," and that will bring it up. I know because while I was dictating it just now, I triggered the Dragon Side Bar.
The help facility is a kind of HTML display, and it works very well with Jaws.
I am sure others will have additional tips, but this should get you started.
By the way, I dictated this using Dragon Naturally Speaking.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of jeff worthington
Sent: Friday, December 30, 2011 4:48 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: [Bulk] Dragon and JAWS 133

So, Just got Dragon for my birthday, Love my mom, and I'm geting it
out of the box. Just 2 questions. 1, do I need sighted help to instal
it with JFWS? and 2 is there anything I should know like anything to
charge or conect first, anything at all that could effect the
instalation? Doing it on my laptop because the desktop is geting
fixed. Thank you all and, seems real impresive what Dragon can do,
this will be great.

On 12/20/11, Peter Holdstock <ptrholdstock@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi, I would suggest people try their onboard soundcards before going out and
buying new ones as most laptops these days use either Intel or Realtek audio
cards which have certainly worked fine for me. The headset is the main
thing. I'm not sure what mine is but if I find out I'll pass it on. It works
amazingly well out of the box. If you've got an Iphone you can even use that
as the microphone and that works very well also.

peter

-----Original Message-----
From: Farfar on Laptop
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2011 11:07 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: [Bulk] Dragon and JAWS 133

Ed,

Very impressive! If I ever start getting arthritis, I'll consider this
seriously.

Dave Carlson
Sent from my Dell Latitude E6520 using Windows 7, San Francisco Bay Area
----- Original Message -----
From: "Marquette, Ed" <Ed.Marquette@KutakRock.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2011 14:44
Subject: [Bulk] Dragon and JAWS 133


Hello everyone:
This message is being dictated using Dragon Naturally Speaking. I promised
everyone that I would post a message as soon as I had fully installed Dragon
Naturally Speaking.
I did absolutely no training. This is version 11.5, and I am amazed with
its accuracy. In fact, I am dictating this e-mail message using Naturally
Speaking.
Here are some tips:
first, if you are using a laptop, your built in sound card is probably an
adequate. I would encourage you to use a USB sound card.
Second, in order to keep the Dragon Toolbar out of the way, under "options,"
be sure to put Naturally Speaking in the system tray.
Third, under Options, be sure to go to the hotkeys tab. There, create a set
of hotkeys that makes sense to you.
For those of you who are looking for a dictation solution, I highly
recommend Dragon Naturally Speaking.
Just so you know, I made absolutely no edits to this e-mail message.


I. Edward Marquette
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