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Re: JAWS and a tree view

Dondi #6097 Hi, Thanks for the help. I talked to Freedom Scientific this morning and we did the window class reassign and it didn't work. I gave up and went back to the lite version that worked well with JAWS. Apparently the reason the people that created Treepad had to go to their own version of a tree control is the number of folders you can have in the business version. I don't know what the exact number of folders you can have but the lite version can have 20 thousand folders and the business version can have a lot bore then this. Dondi toggle quoted message Show quoted text -----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounces@... [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Soronel Haetir Sent: Friday, December 30, 2011 5:55 AM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: Re: JAWS and a tree view Well, given that, you may well be out of luck. Still, try the window class reassign and you may get lucky. Beyond that I suppose you could potentially do something with scripting, but that would be pretty painful. How many nodes are they talking about? I've had tree views with 100k nodes or more and didn't really notice problems. On 12/29/11, Dondi <zidnod63@...> wrote: Hi, Here's what I heard back from the people at the Treepad company right after I posted my question to the list. Thank you for contacting TreePad support. The difference regarding the tree pane between TreePad Lite and TreePad Business Edition is that TreePad Lite uses the standard Windows tree control (a dll inside the Windows directory), while TreePad Business Edition uses a custom tree control (compiled into the program). The standard windows tree control is a deliberately crippled and slowed down thing - we cannot use it for more powerful programs such as TreePad Business Edition and TreePad X Enterprise. It will become very slow when the number of nodes increases above a certain point. The cause for this problem is that Microsoft does not want competing software companies to have a good tree control in their products, so they have crippled it. This results in other companies, such as ourselves, needing to create their own tree controls if more than a certain number of nodes are rquired. The downside of this, is that reader programs such as JAWS, which expect the standard windows tree control, are not prepared to read these custom tree controls. Perhaps the screen reader JAWS can be configured to read our custom tree control - you might want to contact them regarding this issue. It is not an issue of the JAWS reader, nor is it a TreePad issue. But perhaps JAWS can be configured so that you can utilize our tree control (used in TPBiz as well as the TPBiz manual). Dondi -----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounces@... [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Soronel Haetir Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2011 9:53 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: Re: JAWS and a tree view First I would try the window class reassign, JAWS+F2, then "Window class reassign" and go from there. Is the business edition of the same version (1 or 2008 or whatever) as the lite version? If not I could also see them having moved to less accessible presentation technology. Unfortunately a great many of the things MS has been pushing lately suffer greatly as far as accessibility goes, despite the potential being present to do much more. On 12/29/11, Dondi <zidnod63@...> wrote: Hi Everyone, I'm looking to figure out if something is a feature of JAWS or a program. I have a new program I'm trying out called Treepad business edition which is a more advance version then I was using before which is called Treepad lite. In the lite version I have a tree view of objects just like you would see in Windows explorer tree view. I will hear JAWS saying object closed or open depending on whether I right arrow or left arrow opening or closing the object just like in explorer and the folder tree view. JAWS will also announce what level I am on in the tree view. This is the lite version of Treepad in the business version it doesn't say anything. Does anybody have any ideas how two programs made by the same company would sound different when I run them with JAWS 12. By the way I'm running Windows 7 32 bit. Dondi -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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