Von: "Rahul Bajaj" <rahul.bajaj1038@...> Wichtigkeit Normal
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Thanks, everyone. Just to be clear, the objective here is to ensure
that the document that is scanned and saved as a PDF is itself
accessible, not to make an inaccessible PDF accessible.

This being the case, I'm curious to know how Ralf's suggestion would
operate in practice. Does one get an option during the scanning
process that enables you to save a document as a printable PDF? It
would be helpful if you could comment on what specifically a person
scanning a hard copy file needs to do to make sure that the PDF that
she is saving is accessible. Apart from running it through an OCR
engine, that is.

Best,
Rahul



On 14/06/2018, Dr. Aleksander Pavkovic <a.pavkovic@...> wrote:

... And if You save as PDF from within Office 2016, you can also cause
Office to save it as a tagged PDF, meaning that you will also have headings,
numbered or unnumbered lists etc., supposed they are set up correctly within
the office document (Word, for example) using layout styles. Thus, the PDF
file is really accessible and can be navigated just like a (well-designed,
accessible) HTML document.

Best regards,
Aleksander

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Von: "Sieghard Weitzel" <sieghard@...> Wichtigkeit Normal
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Sorry, I forgot to mention that in Office 2016 you can save a file as a
PDF directly as well.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gudrun Brunot
Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2018 7:21 AM
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Subject: Re: Creating an Accessible PDf Document

Hi Rahul:

You are right: there are two kinds of pdf files.

1. scanned images, which are not accessible without using OCR.

2. text-based pdf files, where the text has been prepared by, say, MS Word
or other word processing software and then saved as a .pdf file.

Since there is no way to really tell, visually, what type of pdf file you
have, a sighted person may not even realize that they are sending you a
file you can't access directly.

Where this presents extra difficulty is if you, the visually impaired
person, is the one who is going to not read, but also process, the
document. Maybe you're expected to edit or translate the document and ,
god help you, prefer the format. Exploding formats are the curse in my
profession (I'm a translator).

I believe pdf files can be imported in Word 2016, I seem to have read that
somewhere.

To convert an image-based pdf file, software such as Adobe PDF Transformer
is a good tool, though the accessibility is a bit tricky at times, if you
need to change the parameters, such as keeping normal layout, recognize a
language other than English, etc.

Properly tagging a pdf file makes it more accessible. Again, since it
doesn't make a hill of beans of difference to the sighted user if a pdf
file is poorly tagged, we often get files that are problematic. Try the
JAWS help, applications, adobe, and there should be, if I'm not
misremembering, something about how to prepare accessible documents.

Hope it helps, and good luck.

Gudrun


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From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Rahul
Bajaj
Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2018 7:05 AM
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Subject: Creating an Accessible PDf Document

Hi everyone,

I have to make a representation to a large institution as to how they can
make their documents accessible, so I'd really appreciate some help in
terms of understanding the nuts and bolts of how a PDF can be designed in
an accessible format.

As I understand it, if a document is scanned with a scanner, without using
the OCR feature, it ends up as a scanned image that is completely
inaccessible and unsearchable. As a result, the only way to make a PDF
accessible from its inception is to use an OCR engine after scanning the
document. Is my understanding accurate? Further, do most scanners contain
a built in OCR feature, or can this only be done with a third party
application such as fine reader? This organization would be averse to the
idea of purchasing a third party app, so I need to propose a solution that
is cost effective.

Apart from using OCR, are there any other less cumbersome ways of making a
PDF accessible from inception? Forgive me for my ignorance.

Best,
Rahul