moderated Re: trouble changing Googlesearch settings


Kelly <kelly@...>
 

Interesting,

 

I just went back on a clean Windows install and tried a clean install of JAWS 16.  In Internet Explorer, it did tell me where the slider was on the page. When I went into Forms Mode, JAWS did not read the updating value as I used left and rightarrow.  It did, however, announce the selected value if I press JAWS+tab to check the value.

 

Similarly, if I turned the VPC off, when I tabbed to the slider, JAWS read all the values at once but again if I used let and right arrow and then JAWS+Tab to check the setting, I could determine what value I was setting.

 

Sandra, it might be worth doing a repair on your JAWS install and or checking for updates to ensure you have the latest update of JAWS 16.

 

Kelly

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2018 11:44 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: trouble changing Googlesearch settings

 

Every version of JAWS is a demo until you pay for it and activate it.

 

Bill White

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sandra Streeter
Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2018 9:22 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: trouble changing Googlesearch settings

 

So, I assume that somewhere in that install process there is the option of the demo?

 

 

 

Sandra

“If a man does not keep pace with his companions, perhaps it is because he hears a different drummer. Let him step to the music he hears, however measured or far away.”
(Henry David Thoreau)

 

Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2018 12:13 AM

Subject: Re: trouble changing Googlesearch settings

 

The Jaws 2018 install has been greatly simplified. Make sure you download the appropriate version, i.e. 32 bit or 64 bit, after you save the file and press enter on it you only have to press 4 keys:

 

1. the installer will come up with the license agreement and you have to press the spacebar to check the checkbox to agree

2. Once you have done this press enter, the installation will start. Are you on Windows 7? If so it should be relatively quick, but I have experienced huge variations on my laptop and 4 PC’s at work, on my Windows 10 laptop which is quite new and has an I7 processor, 16Gb of RAM and a fast SSD the install sometimes has taken 10 or 12 minutes, on other PC’s at work only 2 or so minutes. Anyhow, it will announce progress from time to time.

3. When the installation is complete it will say so and ask you to press enter to close

4. Lastly, as soon as you pressed enter to close the installer will tell you that you need to reboot your system and to press enter to do so.

 

Again, in summary, press spacebar and enter at the beginning of the install and enter twice at the end and that’s it.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sandra Streeter
Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2018 9:03 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: trouble changing Googlesearch settings

 

Ah, thought that sounded familiar, though appreciate the reminders, because  it’s been forever since I’ve used demo-mode. Pretty easy to install? I’ve never done it myself...

 

 

 

Sandra

“If a man does not keep pace with his companions, perhaps it is because he hears a different drummer. Let him step to the music he hears, however measured or far away.”
(Henry David Thoreau)

 

Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2018 11:59 PM

Subject: Re: trouble changing Googlesearch settings

 

No, no cost to download it, install it and have it on your system. You can use it as often as you want in demo mode, but keep in mind that once the 40 minutes are over you have to reboot your PC for it to go away, once you do you can use it again for 40 minutes. It will pop up with a message I think 6 minutes, 3 minutes, 2 minutes and 1 minute before it stops working, if you are doing anything which requires saving make sure you do so at the latest once you hear the 1 minute warning.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sandra Streeter
Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2018 8:42 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: trouble changing Googlesearch settings

 

True. No cost, correct?

 

 

 

Sandra

“If a man does not keep pace with his companions, perhaps it is because he hears a different drummer. Let him step to the music he hears, however measured or far away.”
(Henry David Thoreau)

 

Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2018 11:32 PM

Subject: Re: trouble changing Googlesearch settings

 

You could of course download Jaws 2018 and use it in 40-minute demo mode. Not something you want to do all the time, but it might help in situations like this.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sandra Streeter
Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2018 8:27 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: trouble changing Googlesearch settings

 

Nice summary, Bill. As stated, will give the MS disability desk a call this week to see if they can get me out of this jam, if I haven’t found a way to resolve it—I have a sighted friend who might also be able to help. Still open to any suggestions from anyone, especially if you’ve experienced this quirk yourself! Thankfully, it’s a nuisance issue, not something that interferes much with functioning! Wonder if I have a defective i.e... Or, as you said, Bill, things in the tech world could have changed so much in the past 2 years that my system is balking and not everything works the same with the older versions of JAWS.

 

 

 

Sandra

“If a man does not keep pace with his companions, perhaps it is because he hears a different drummer. Let him step to the music he hears, however measured or far away.”
(Henry David Thoreau)

 

From: Bill White

Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2018 11:12 PM

Subject: Re: trouble changing Googlesearch settings

 

Hi, Sieghard. I did tandem with Sandra. She is using JAWS 16, and cannot upgrade at this time. What I discovered is, that for some reason, she has no slider. The numbers 10, 20, 30, 40, 50 and 100 are in a vertical line, and the form field sound never happens, even if I did a space or Enter on the numbers. What it looks like is that her JAWS is seeing these numbers as text, and not as a slider control. What I could not determine of course, is whether this is a JAWS 16 problem or an Internet Explorer problem.

 

Bill White

billwhite92701@...

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2018 8:07 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: trouble changing Googlesearch settings

 

I am using Jaws 2018 but had absolutely no issues changing the number of search results using both Chrome and IE, I pressed enter on the “10” slider, arrowed right to 100 and pressed enter to select it, then “b” the button quick nav key took me straight to the “save” button at the bottom of the page, after activating it Jaws said “your settings have been saved” and there was an OK button which I had to activate.

After that it interstingly enough took me to a captcha, one of these “I am not a robot” checkboxes. In Chrome I could simply check it and press submit, in IE I had to go to the audio challenge and enter a number, but it was spoken clearly and at 5 digits was not hard to remember. After I entered the number and activated “Verify” the “I am not a Robot” checkbox got checked and I pressed Submit, then it went back to the regular google.com page.

I did go back to google.com/preferences and verified that the setting stuck and it did both in Google where I am signed in but also in iE where there is no sign-in, I guess IE remembers the setting and I assume Google does as well except if you are signed in and use multiple computers then if you change the setting on one computer it will also be applied to all others because if you are signed in with the same Google account all settings are synced.

 

Now, Sandra, if you are having issues with this I’d be happy to help you out via Jaws Tandem although I am not sure if I can connect with my Jaws 2018 to your Jaws 16, but if I can I’d be happy to give it a shot.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sandra Streeter
Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2018 5:12 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: trouble changing Googlesearch settings

 

Sorry! I’ll make a note of that. Funny how you can go years being so-o-o woefully ignorant! Anyway, I have about 45 min. to kill before a TV show, so should call shortly.

 

 

 

Sandra

“If a man does not keep pace with his companions, perhaps it is because he hears a different drummer. Let him step to the music he hears, however measured or far away.”
(Henry David Thoreau)

 

From: Bill White

Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2018 8:06 PM

Subject: Re: trouble changing Googlesearch settings

 

Nope, that’s not it. The JAWS key is the zero key on desktops on the numbers row, and is the capslock key on laptops. It timed me out. If you want to do this, why not give me a call. My phone number is

 

714-835-6295. I’ll walk you through it.

 

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sandra Streeter
Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2018 5:05 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: trouble changing Googlesearch settings

 

Several attempts, but it just landed me on the title “JAWS Professional”, with no prompts... Just to make sure I’m correct in my keystrokes (half-self-taught, half by former tech guy at state agency, in dribs and drabs, so not always up on some specifics, like this one): JAWS key is lower-left, horizontal, oblong key on most num-pads. If not, that would explain it!

 

 

 

Sandra

“If a man does not keep pace with his companions, perhaps it is because he hears a different drummer. Let him step to the music he hears, however measured or far away.”
(Henry David Thoreau)

 

From: Bill White

Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2018 7:53 PM

Subject: Re: trouble changing Googlesearch settings

 

Hi, Sandra. Once you get this email, do the following.

 

Press the jaws key plus j, then press U, then ENTER three times.

 

It will ask you to enter the number I am giving you. It is case sensitive, meaning that you must enter the capital letters as capitals. All the letters are capitals.

 

Enter the numbers and letters, and press enter.

 

The meeting ID is:

 

BX252UA

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sandra Streeter
Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2018 4:50 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: trouble changing Googlesearch settings

 

Probably a good idea. Warning—I have a tendency to get a bit tongue-tied in explaining things or take a while to get what someone techier than I is getting at, so if you can be patient with that, we’re golden! Unfortunately, I did not end up with the techy side of the Aspergers package, ha, ha! And, my weakest learning style is auditory, so I may have to take some Braille notes along the way. Give me a few minutes to set up, and I’ll dial in.

 

I did try the pointer you left in the message before this, but couldn’t even get the “search results” link to engage—though, by way of experimentation, I did also try the “safe search” link, which did work. So, now suspect some link isn’t working as it should.

 

 

 

 

Sandra

“If a man does not keep pace with his companions, perhaps it is because he hears a different drummer. Let him step to the music he hears, however measured or far away.”
(Henry David Thoreau)

 

From: Bill White

Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2018 7:34 PM

Subject: Re: trouble changing Googlesearch settings

 

Hi, Sandra. If you want, I could try to tandem into your JAWS with you and change and save your search settings. If you want me to do this, write back, and I’ll send you the meeting number.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sandra Streeter
Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2018 4:32 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: trouble changing Googlesearch settings

 

Wow! Glad to know it isn’t just me! A sighted friend got his to work last night, but I couldn’t. “Veddy intehdesting!”

 

 

 

Sandra

“If a man does not keep pace with his companions, perhaps it is because he hears a different drummer. Let him step to the music he hears, however measured or far away.”
(Henry David Thoreau)

 

From: Bill White

Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2018 7:19 PM

Subject: Re: trouble changing Googlesearch settings

 

Hi, Sandra. You’re right. It’s broken now. I can’t get it to work now either.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sandra Streeter
Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2018 3:55 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: trouble changing Googlesearch settings

 

I believe I’m already always signed in. My issue is that I can’t even get the slider to work as I’ve done in the past. Trying everything I can think of, following suggestions—to no avail! (guttural sigh of frustration).

 

 

 

Sandra

“If a man does not keep pace with his companions, perhaps it is because he hears a different drummer. Let him step to the music he hears, however measured or far away.”
(Henry David Thoreau)

 

From: Bill White

Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2018 6:41 PM

Subject: Re: trouble changing Googlesearch settings

 

Hi, Sandra. The only way you will get Google to remember your settings is if you sign into google and leave yourself signed in with a gmail account. Otherwise, you must set the slider each time you access google search.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sandra Streeter
Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2018 8:48 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: trouble changing Googlesearch settings

 

JAWS 16, i.e. 11. It doesn’t say “slider”, just has the no-link list of options. Just tried right-arrowing to the desired choice, then entering, and, as I suspected, didn’t get the desired result.

 

Yesterday, a friend sent me the link to the Googlesearch page, and I found the same results. Doing further research before that (I’m like a dog with a bone—I can’t let it go), I learned that sometimes your cookie settings can screw things up, so, now wonder if the page doesn’t represent correctly unless you allow all cookies—though that really doesn’t make sense, because I have the settings I had when I was able to make it happen probably a year ago. There may be cookie settings in CCleaner that do need changing in order for it to work, but I’m having trouble making changes there, too.

 

So, any further input from you and others, still appreciated. Until I can get a “sightee” to look at it and maybe make it happen, I am still willing to plug away. Thanks!

 

 

 

 

Sandra

“If a man does not keep pace with his companions, perhaps it is because he hears a different drummer. Let him step to the music he hears, however measured or far away.”
(Henry David Thoreau)

 

From: Kelly

Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2018 8:20 AM

Subject: Re: trouble changing Googlesearch settings

 

What browser and version of JAWS are you using?  With the latest version of JAWS in Chrome or Internet Explorer, are you hearing JAWS talk about a slider just after the heading that talks about the number of search results?  If so you should be able to press enter on the item JAWS calls a slider and have Forms Mode turn on.  Then use the left or right arrows to adjust the slider and save the new setting.

 

Kelly

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sandra Streeter
Sent: Friday, April 20, 2018 7:57 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: trouble changing Googlesearch settings

 

Hello,

 

Trying to change my Googlesearch # of results to 100, but all I see, when I get there, is a list of from 10 to 100 desired; it doesn’t appear to have actual links to click on, just a vertical list. I have tried to click on them with spacebar and enter, but obviously, nothing happens.So, what’s up with that? Any ideas for how to proceed? Thanks, in advance.

 

 

Sandra

“If a man does not keep pace with his companions, perhaps it is because he hears a different drummer. Let him step to the music he hears, however measured or far away.”
(Henry David Thoreau)

 

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