Dave, Dave, Dave.
There are two glaring flaws in your theory the worse of which is "if the
developers will resolve all the bugs found". (LOLLOLLOLLOL)
I have worked on systems under the theory that 300 monkeys can accomplish
the same amount of work as one monkey working 300 days - God, what a
disaster.
I do, however, concur with your theory on the odd number releases being the
better ones.
Cy


-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@... [mailto:jfw-bounces@...]
On Behalf Of Farfar on Laptop
Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2011 9:51 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: becoming a jaws beta tester

Cy,

As cynical as I can be, I do think that JAWS 13 is a much better product
than 12. Goes back to my original theory that only odd-numbered versions of
JAWS are worth the price. Too bad we can't purchase an SMA that follows that

pattern.

Sure, 3 months is plenty of time. There's an old adage that if one writer,
writing one page per day can produce a 600-page book in 600 days, we then
can extrapolate and say that 600 writers can produce the same book in 1 day,

correct?

So goes Beta testing. As long as every beta tester is testing something
different in the code, then the more testers, the better. And if they are
all working 8 hours a day to dedicated testing (and not just playing around
with ResearchIt) 100 testers can put in 100 x 8 x 90 hours of testing. A
whopping 72,000 hours. If that really happened and the developers resolved
all the bugs found, we would have a very stable product, indeed.

But of course there are likely fewer testers, fewer hours per day, and much
more overlap.

Dave Carlson
Sent from my Dell Latitude E6520 using Windows 7, San Francisco Bay Area
----- Original Message -----
From: "Cy Selfridge" <cyselfridge@...>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@...>
Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2011 20:42
Subject: RE: becoming a jaws beta tester


Dave,
First three months? Man, are you optimistic. (LOLLOLLOL)
Did they ever get 12 reasonably clean?
I am still on 11 and wonder how 13 is for real.
I am trying to decide if I really want to renew my SMA or is it just going
to be waste of money - again?
Cy

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@... [mailto:jfw-bounces@...]
On Behalf Of Farfar on Laptop
Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2011 9:38 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: becoming a jaws beta tester

RJ,

Everyone is a beta tester for at least the first 3 months of a new release.

Okay, I'm cynical. Actually the new version does pre-release about a month
in advance and everyone is welcome to download and report bugs. However
given the short time I really don't think those bug reports ever make it to
the first release. I suspect that these bugs get fixed in the succeeding
monthly updates. Okay, cynical again, but not quite so much, eh?

Other than that if you want to be a Beta tester for real, you need to
contact FS directly and let them know you're interested. Then be prepared to

devote a lot of time to wringing out as many quirks as possible, with as
many applications as possible, in as many operating environments as possible

during the testing cycles, and report every single thing you find that
either works or does not work.

If I ever retire and have nothing to do, I'll volunteer.

Dave Carlson
Sent from my Dell Latitude E6520 using Windows 7, San Francisco Bay Area
----- Original Message -----
From: "RJ Sandefur" <joltingjacksandefur@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2011 19:25
Subject: becoming a jaws beta tester


How does one become a jaws beta tester? RJ
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