Re: New member/OT question.


Hello Randy
The issue that you speak of where writing the word budget produces the
degrees symbol in JAWS appears to have been resolved with JAWS 2018.
I am using grade 2 braille input on a Focus braille display and I just
tried it now and the degrees symbol was not produced nor pronounced by
JAWS with speech. I tried it in Word 2016 and in this email message

On 11/9/17, Randy Meyer <randymeyer@...> wrote:
Yes, only happens with Braille input. I need to find out if it still
happens with Jaws 2018. Thank you for the clarification.

-----Original Message-----
From: [] On Behalf Of Carol
Smith via Groups.Io
Sent: Wednesday, November 8, 2017 5:53 PM
Subject: Re: New member/OT question.

No, Randy. I am using my pc with a keyboard. Sorry, I did not interpret
the fact that you are using braille.


On 11/8/2017 2:05 PM, Randy Meyer wrote:

Are you using Braille input with grade 2 turned on?

When I type budget in grade 1 Braille or with a regular key board
attached, there is no problem. I am using the latest version of Jaws
18 on my ElBraille and when I have grade 2 Braille on for input dg
still is pronounced degrees.

I have not tried Braille input with Jaws 2018 on my desk top computer,
and I am not upgrading to Jaws 2018 on my ElBraille until I know it
won't cause other issues.

Randy Meyer

-----Original Message-----
From: [] On Behalf Of
Carol Smith via Groups.Io
Sent: Tuesday, November 7, 2017 5:48 PM
Subject: Re: New member/OT question.

Hi Randy,

I just wanted to report to you that my Jaws 18 reads budget correctly.
I am using it now, while typing this message. There may be some
dictionary entry on your system that is causing this or, maybe the
change took place in the 2018 upgrade. I have not yet installed my copy.


On 11/7/2017 6:05 PM, Randy Meyer wrote:

I purchased an ElBraille 14 about three months ago to use in place of
my Hims Braille Sense 32 cell notetaker.

First, my understanding was that you might be able to use the
ElBraille in place of a main computer has proven to be wrong. The
ElBraille has a tablet processor, which is not as fast and responsive
as my three year old desk top computer. It is similar in speed to my
Asus tablet I purchased around three years ago. Although, I do not
use the Asus tablet enough to have a good comparison, and my
14 may be faster, it is not as fast and responsive as my desk top
I do not use OpenBook or OCR on the Elbraile. I believe you will
need Jaws 18. You will want to buy a USB hub to give you more than
one USB port, and I also bought an HDMI adapter with a regular
monitor port for my wife to be able to give me some feedback.

Running a computer just using the Focus 14 key board has been a
learning curve. I did cheat for a while and connected a regular key
The Braille translation table in Jaws does have a problem, it
recognizes dg as the degrees symbol in words. For example, budget is
pronounced bu-degrees-et. I am not sure if Jaws 2018 has an updated
translation that has corrected this. This is a Braille translation
problem, not an ElBraille problem. Also, I have not heard yet if I
can update my ElBraille to run Jaws 2018, which I am running on the
of my computers.
There are times that I wish it was a little snappier running Outlook,
Word, and Excel, but it isn't too bad. I had been using the ElNotes
program to take notes, until I just decided today to use Wordpad

The makers of the ElBraille like Fire Fox, and I do not use it. I
had started using Google Chrome, but there was problems typing into
edit fields with the Braille key board when using Chrome, which I am
not sure if this is an ElBraille problem or Jaws, but I suspect it is
a Jaws problem. VFO recommended I use Internet Explorer and Ron
Miller help me get Internet Explorer to be my default browser.

Keep in mind that this is not a VFO product, and VFO did not have a
dedicated support person for the ElBraille when I last called tech
Ron Miller from VFO did take the time to talk with me when I was
having some initial challenges with ElBraille. I have found it
easier and quicker to send questions direct to the Elita Group who
made the ElBraille, and they do respond fairly quickly.

I hope this helps, and let me know if you have any further questions.
I still believe the best notetaker in the future will be a full
featured windows computer or tablet, which is why I am willing to go
through the challenge of using the ElBraille.

Randy Meyer

-----Original Message-----
From: [] On Behalf Of
Bill Tessore
Sent: Sunday, November 5, 2017 1:47 PM
Subject: New member/OT question.

Hi all, I am a JAWS 17 user, and I am interested to know if anyone
here Has n El Braille 14, or knows any Users of the El Braille 14 by
Freedom Scientific? I would like to get some first-hand user feedback
on how it works for them. Particularly with regard to using JAWS and
the open book software and pearl OCR camera. I intend to use the
Pearl, the El Braille 40 (when it becomes US available),and related
software to facilitate my literary Braille occupation. Thanks in
for your help and indulgence.
Bill Tessore
I can be contacted here or off site at Sent from my iPhone

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