Re: New member/OT question.

Randy Meyer


Are you using Braille input with grade 2 turned on?

When I type budget in grade 1 Braille or with a regular key board attached,
there is no problem. I am using the latest version of Jaws 18 on my
ElBraille and when I have grade 2 Braille on for input dg still is
pronounced degrees.

I have not tried Braille input with Jaws 2018 on my desk top computer, and I
am not upgrading to Jaws 2018 on my ElBraille until I know it won't cause
other issues.

Randy Meyer

-----Original Message-----
From: [] On Behalf Of Carol
Smith via Groups.Io
Sent: Tuesday, November 7, 2017 5:48 PM
Subject: Re: New member/OT question.

Hi Randy,

I just wanted to report to you that my Jaws 18 reads budget correctly.
I am using it now, while typing this message. There may be some dictionary
entry on your system that is causing this or, maybe the change took place in
the 2018 upgrade. I have not yet installed my copy.


On 11/7/2017 6:05 PM, Randy Meyer wrote:

I purchased an ElBraille 14 about three months ago to use in place of
my Hims Braille Sense 32 cell notetaker.

First, my understanding was that you might be able to use the
ElBraille in place of a main computer has proven to be wrong. The
ElBraille has a tablet processor, which is not as fast and responsive
as my three year old desk top computer. It is similar in speed to my
Asus tablet I purchased around three years ago. Although, I do not
use the Asus tablet enough to have a good comparison, and my ElBraille
14 may be faster, it is not as fast and responsive as my desk top

I do not use OpenBook or OCR on the Elbraile. I believe you will need
Jaws 18. You will want to buy a USB hub to give you more than one USB
port, and I also bought an HDMI adapter with a regular monitor port
for my wife to be able to give me some feedback.

Running a computer just using the Focus 14 key board has been a
learning curve. I did cheat for a while and connected a regular key

The Braille translation table in Jaws does have a problem, it
recognizes dg as the degrees symbol in words. For example, budget is
pronounced bu-degrees-et. I am not sure if Jaws 2018 has an updated
translation that has corrected this. This is a Braille translation
problem, not an ElBraille problem. Also, I have not heard yet if I
can update my ElBraille to run Jaws 2018, which I am running on the rest
of my computers.

There are times that I wish it was a little snappier running Outlook,
Word, and Excel, but it isn't too bad. I had been using the ElNotes
program to take notes, until I just decided today to use Wordpad instead.

The makers of the ElBraille like Fire Fox, and I do not use it. I had
started using Google Chrome, but there was problems typing into edit
fields with the Braille key board when using Chrome, which I am not
sure if this is an ElBraille problem or Jaws, but I suspect it is a
Jaws problem. VFO recommended I use Internet Explorer and Ron Miller
help me get Internet Explorer to be my default browser.

Keep in mind that this is not a VFO product, and VFO did not have a
dedicated support person for the ElBraille when I last called tech
Ron Miller from VFO did take the time to talk with me when I was
having some initial challenges with ElBraille. I have found it easier
and quicker to send questions direct to the Elita Group who made the
ElBraille, and they do respond fairly quickly.

I hope this helps, and let me know if you have any further questions.
I still believe the best notetaker in the future will be a full
featured windows computer or tablet, which is why I am willing to go
through the challenge of using the ElBraille.

Randy Meyer

-----Original Message-----
From: [] On Behalf Of Bill
Sent: Sunday, November 5, 2017 1:47 PM
Subject: New member/OT question.

Hi all, I am a JAWS 17 user, and I am interested to know if anyone
here Has n El Braille 14, or knows any Users of the El Braille 14 by
Freedom Scientific? I would like to get some first-hand user feedback
on how it works for them. Particularly with regard to using JAWS and
the open book software and pearl OCR camera. I intend to use the
Pearl, the El Braille 40 (when it becomes US available),and related
software to facilitate my literary Braille occupation. Thanks in advance
for your help and indulgence.
Bill Tessore
I can be contacted here or off site at Sent from my iPhone

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