Re: Jaws & desktop issues


Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@...>
 

You know with mine, first thing, Windows M will not bring me
to the Desktop only Windows D, whereupon it says Recycle,
which, of course, I know is the first icon on my Desktop.
Before I go to the Desktop, if I press Insert T, JAWS says,
lost focus, press Alt Tab, well, of course, I have done
that, got me as far as spitting in the wind, then Windows M,
no go, but Windows D gets me there. More and more, as
computers are supposed to get better, I have more and more
burdens. In Outlook now, when I come into the Inbox, I have
to go to the Server box, then back to the Inbox, then press
Alt+Tab before any emails will arrive. I don't know how my
husband and I managed to figure that out, but I can say it
is a downright nuisance, and I think a totally unnecessary
problem. In word, sometimes, the last document I closed goes
to the bottom of the folders - why, I haven't the slightest
idea, just a little thing that required extra thought on my
part to find the thing. For 12 years, I used JAWS and
Windows system without having to endure such nonsense. It
just makes me wonder what imposition is around the corner.
If I sound disgusted, then, I have gotten my point across.

Best from,

Carolyn

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On
Behalf Of Laura Richardson
Sent: Tuesday, August 1, 2017 9:49 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws & desktop issues

Hi Ben,

Thank you for the information ...... This helps a lot.

Laura


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On
Behalf Of Ben Humphreys
Sent: Tuesday, August 1, 2017 5:40 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws & desktop issues

Hi Laura,

it seems Win+D and Win+M are not exactly the same thing.

Win+D specifically shows the desktop but JAWS
doesn't speak "Desktop" as it should

Win+M minimizes everything it can then JAWS speaks "Desktop"

You can definitively verify for yourself where
Win+anything takes you using JAWS+q
This will announce the currently running program.

So, Win+D then JAWS+Q says shcore.dll
And Win+M then JAWS+Q says shell32.dll

So JAWS knows shell32 is desktop. But it doesn't
know shcore.dll is also desktop.

Perhaps this "bug" was introduced in Windows 10
when Microsoft renamed shlwapi.dll to
shcore.dll. We can see that Freedom at one time
had the former speaking "Desktop" but has not
updated it for the latter (see script file "Windows OS.jss")

So Win+M is going to give you the consistent
results you're after until VFO fixes.

Hope this helps,

Best,

Ben

At 04:06 PM 7/31/2017, you wrote:
I understand that but it doesn't seem normal for
Jaws to randomly give me variations of what it
says when I go to the desktop .. I'm just trying
to find out why this is happening, as well as
why every time I press insert + t Jaws says "documents"
instead of
"desktop".

Laura


Laura

From: main@jfw.groups.io
[mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Pastor Gil Pries
Sent: Monday, July 31, 2017 2:41 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws & desktop issues

It's normal for Jaws to say folder view.
Try using windows m instead of windows d.

Hope this helps.

Pastor Gil

From:
<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>main@jfw.groups.io
[mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Laura Richardson
Sent: Monday, July 31, 2017 12:38 PM
To: <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Jaws & desktop issues

Hello,

There are two issues I'm having regarding Jaws
and my desktop which I'll describe below ..
Using Windows 10, Jaws 18, MS Word 2016.

When I go to the desktop by pressing windows + m
Jaws will always say desktop folder view list
view and the name of the icon that's highlighted .. No
problems with this.

When I go to the desktop by pressing windows + d
I get a variation of what Jaws tells me:
*Sometimes it only says the name of the icon
that's highlighted (it does not say desktop or
anything else, just the name of the icon)
*Sometimes it says "folder view list view" and
the name of the icon that's highlighted (but not desktop or
anything else)
*Sometimes it says desktop 1 and something about
shell something or another .. This one doesn't
happen as often as the other things Jaws says
when I go to the desktop which is why I don't have exactly
what Jaws says.

There seems to be no rhyme or reason and I never
know which one of these Jaws is going to say
when I go to the desktop by pressing Windows +d.

The other issue is that no matter which way I go
to the desktop, when I press insert + t Jaws
always says "documents" .. This happens no matter what icon
is highlighted.

Does anybody have any suggestions or answers as
to why these things are occurring? .. Thank you for any
help.

Laura


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