Re: My problem with latest update


Dave...
 

Carolyn, it just takes a bit getting used to. But that's academic, since I
have a Right Windows key.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer

----- Original Message -----
From: "Carolyn Arnold" <4carolyna@...>
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Sent: Saturday, July 22, 2017 18:23
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That would be one left-hand stretch from the left Windows Key to F4. I
could, but it would be a strange stretch.

Best from,

Carolyn

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Dave...
Sent: Saturday, July 22, 2017 8:04 PM
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Subject: Re: My problem with latest update

Randy,

Ah, so it's the right keys that are not available? That's a horse of a
different color. Then left hand thumb on the Windows key, left hand pointer
on the f4, and any finger of choice on the right hand on the insert key.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


----- Original Message -----
From: Randy Barnett <mailto:randy@...>
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Sent: Saturday, July 22, 2017 14:01
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well, My keyboard and a lot of modern keyboards dont have the right windows
key or the application key. So the left windows key is it for us.
On 7/22/2017 12:21 PM, Dave... wrote:


Randy,

Um, yes. I'm giving instructions using the right Windows key, not the left.
Therefore using my right hand pinky and thumb will handle the Insert and
Right Windows key, and the left hand finds the F4 key. Am I missing
something here? Seems pretty basic to me.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


----- Original Message -----
From: Randy Barnett <mailto:randy@...>
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Sent: Saturday, July 22, 2017 09:53
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A lot of modern keyboards dont have the left windows or application keys..
On 7/22/2017 9:38 AM, Dave... wrote:


On a standard 101-key keyboard, its right pinky on Insert, Right thumb on
Window key, Left pointer on F4.

...and I don't have overly large hands, so the spread is easy once the keys
are located.

If learning these combinations is difficult, try applying tactile dots to
the Windows and F4 keys.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


----- Original Message -----
From: Sieghard Weitzel <mailto:sieghard@...>
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Sent: Saturday, July 22, 2017 09:32
Subject: Re: My problem with latest update


I usually reverse hands, press the insert/Jaws key with my left hand and use
the right hand to press Windows + F4, after you do it a few times it becomes
quite natural and easy.

One thing is that it can take quite long for Jaws to restart, I have seen it
taking well over 30 seconds, usually I wait almost a minute and only if
nothing happens I try other stuff. Interesting enough if I minimize all
applications and then type “J” to go to the Jaws shortcut on my desktop Jaws
sometimes starts up which means it apparently sometimes crashes and
completely unloads in which case the Insert+Windows+F4 won’t work.





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[mailto:main@...] On Behalf Of Randy Barnett
Sent: Friday, July 21, 2017 9:04 PM
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I have big hands and that is a ackward combo! :) Nice to know though. :)
On 7/21/2017 8:57 PM, Bill White wrote:

Hi, Shannon. This key combination shuts down, restarts JAWS, and makes it
possible to send an error report to Freedom Scientific.



Bill White

Billwhite92701@... <mailto:Billwhite92701@...>



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[mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Shannon
Sent: Friday, July 21, 2017 1:14 PM
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Subject: Re: My problem with latest update



Dave,

What is that key combo for. It appears to do nothing and with the keyboard
helper on it doesn’t report that it would do anything?

Shannon



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[mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Dave...
Sent: Friday, July 21, 2017 11:07 AM
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Subject: Re: My problem with latest update



Insert+Windows+F4

Dave

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On Jul 20, 2017, at 4:44 PM, Don Moore <donmoore@...
<mailto:donmoore@...> > wrote:

Hi Paul,



Yes, I have raised this issue with VFO Technical support.
They want me to get an error report for them; however, I cannot get an error
report because my computer freezes when JAWS 18 crashes and I can do nothing
except do a cold boot. This is very frustrating, as I have been using JAWS
for Windows since JAWS 3.5.



I am using the most up-to-date version of Windows 10.



Have you raised this issue with VFO Technical support?



Don



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[mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Paul Hunt
Sent: Monday, July 17, 2017 7:30 AM
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Subject: Re: My problem with latest update



Hello everybody. I'm experiencing the same issue with JAWS 18 and Windows
10. Repairing JAWS 18 didn't resolve the issue. Don, have you raised this
issue with VFO Technical support? What version of Windows 10 are you
running?

Paul


On Jul 16, 2017, at 7:29 PM, Jason White via Groups.Io
<jason@... <mailto:jason@...> > wrote:

Did you try running a JAWS repair (on version 18)? This procedure fixed JAWS
crashes I was encountering earlier this year. I’m still experiencing
crashes, but they seem to be related to very specific situations.



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[mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Don Moore
Sent: Saturday, July 15, 2017 6:46 PM
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Subject: My problem with latest update



Hi List,



Actually, I have been having this same problem with the last
4 updates. When I am using JAWS 18 on my Windows 10 machine, it will work
fine for a while; however, JAWS suddenly crashes without notice. It always
happens when I am using Microsoft software, including Outlook 2013, Word
2013 and Internet Explorer 11.



The problem first occurred in the early versions of JAWS 18,
then it was fixed in a few builds, then it started occurring again around
January or February. The latest update worked fine for about 2 hours, so I
thought they had it fixed again, but then it crashed.



When JAWS 18 crashes, I cannot seem to generate an error
report and other screen readers won’t work properly either, so I have to
turn off my PC and turn it on again with the on/off button.



JAWS 17 works fine all the time, so I am unloading JAWS 18
and launching JAWS 17 until I can get this fix.



Any help will be appreciated.



Thanks in advance,



Don

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