Re: Jaws updates


Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@...>
 

Hi Dave,

I was under the impression that Remote Desktop or Citrix access was only possible with Jaws Pro, but that is not the case. In order to clarify I just called VFO and asked and I was told that yes, both versions have exactly the same features and the difference at this point is strictly a licensing issue. Basically Jaws Home is meant if you own all the equipment. I explained to the sale guy that I am self-employed and while I sometimes use Remote Desktop to connect to my computer at work, it still is my computer and he seemed to think that in this case there should be no problem if I downgraded from Jaws Pro to Jaws Home. If, however, you were to connect to a computer or server from your own computer but the computer at the remote end was owned by your employer then really you should have a Jaws Pro license.
I actually just renewed my Jaws Pro SMA not that long ago, here in Canada I have to do this via a reseller/VFO Partner called Canadianlog, but next time when it's time to renew I will most likely request to be downgraded to Jaws Home and pay the lower price for that SMA. According to the Jaws website, Jaws Home if you buy it new at the regular price is $900 and the SMA if you buy it at the same time and then continue to keep it up is $120. Jaws Pro is $200 more, $1,100 to buy and the SMA is also $200, so $80 more for the SMA. I don't blame Jaws for doing this because a company who buys Jaws may have more than one blind user, they may require more tech support if their IT person who may know nothing about Jaws has to install and configure it and so on. I'm sure if some company approached VFO with a request for 50 copies of Jaws that VFO may give them a volume license discount, but of course that is just speculation and I don't think one can compare the volume license program of Microsoft for Windows or Office to that of Jaws which is a specialty piece of software and even most very large companies won't need 5000 licenses like they may with Windows.
So, in short, if you own your own equipment and don't install Jaws on somebody elses computers Jaws Home is just fine and Remote access in fact is also available for Jaws Home, it is associated with an additional cost, but since I bought it a long time ago I forgot to ask how much it would be if you bought it now. Fact is that most regular users who have Jaws Home would not need it. You still have Jaws Tandem access which can also be used as long as you have somebody on the other side who can initiate the connection.

Regards,
Sieghard

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Dave...
Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 5:37 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws updates

Sieghard,

So I've heard already. But given that both versions have the same features, why pay more?

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


----- Original Message -----
From: "Sieghard Weitzel" <sieghard@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 14:13
Subject: Re: Jaws updates


Dave, that is definitely not correct, the SMA for Jaws Professional is more
expensive just as the software itself if you buy it for the first time is
more expensive.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Dave...
Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 9:34 AM
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Don - Wrong. Both versions are the same price.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


----- Original Message -----
From: "Don H" <lmddh50@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 07:45
Subject: Re: Jaws updates


Keep in mind the SMA for the home edition and Professional edition are
different. I think the $180 price is for the professional edition.

On 6/14/2017 9:41 AM, Vic Beckley wrote:
Richard,

No I didn't have any SMAs for WE. I purchased my JAWS SMA probably within
a week of getting my JAWS serial number.


Best Regards From Ohio,

Vic


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Richard
Turner
Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 9:35 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws updates

Hi Vic,
I gather you had no SMA's for Window-eyes?
Is this for two or three updates?
I can't imagine you went beyond the 30 or 60 days time limit folks are
talking about after getting your Jaws authorization....

I'd asked VFO for clarification.

Richard



-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Vic
Beckley
Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 3:34 AM
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Subject: Re: Jaws updates

Everybody is saying $120 for the SMA. When I migrated from Window-Eyes to
JAWS I had to pay $180. I just have the home edition. Why would this be?


Best Regards From Ohio,

Vic


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carolyn
Arnold
Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2017 9:06 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws updates

The only thing, I don't think you can pay $5 a month, I think you have to
pay $120.00 in one whack, which is very hard for some people, who might
find it easier to pay $5 a month. However, logistically, $5 a month would
cost FVO more than $120 every two years - cost in terms of logistics,
processing, cost of processing, recording, etc.

Best from,

Carolyn



-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sieghard
Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2017 6:24 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws updates

Not sure how that works and if you can even buy single upgrades.
Given that if you have Jaws Home maintaining an SMA costs you all of $5 a
month I don't know why you wouldn't simply buy the SMA every two years.
It's I think $120 every two years and you get two major versions, so it's
$60 per version. Jaws unlike NVDA is not a nonprofit organisation and as a
business owner myself I definitely don't begrudge them this relatively
minor amount of money. I know some people who don't work and are on some
sort of assistance feel this is a heartship, but $5 a month I don't think
can be considered a heartship as most of us spend this and more on al
sorts of incidental items whether it's a fancy coffee, a beer once a week
or cigarettes, in fact somebody who smokes usually wastes a lot more than
$5 a month.

Regards,
Sieghard


----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of bob
jutzi
Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2017 2:53 PM
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Subject: Re: Jaws updates

What do most major updates cost without an SMA?

On 6/13/2017 5:49 PM, Chris G wrote:
yes, that is correct.



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-------- Original Message --------
From: Don H
Sent: Tuesday, Jun 13, 2017 5:38 PM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Jaws updates

Am I understanding it correctly that Jaws gets a update once a month
and a major update once a year?




























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