Re: New user here; JAWs questions and concerns


David Moore
 

Hi,

I use VLC media player, and it is very accessible with the touch cursor like you said. It will play any video or audio that I can thinkof, and easily play blue ray movies. VLC rocks, and it is open source which I love. There even add ons to do even more with it. Go VLC Media player over any other!

David Moore

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From: Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
Sent: Friday, May 19, 2017 4:24 PM
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Subject: Re: New user here; JAWs questions and concerns

 

Oops, sorry.  VLC is a really cool open-source media player and a program that can make use of the touch cursor.  It just may be the best player on the market, commercial or otherwise.

 

Ted

 

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From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Shannon

Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2017 3:28 PM

To: main@jfw.groups.io

Subject: Re: New user here; JAWs questions and concerns

 

Hi Ted,

With all the new terminology that I am learning, could you tell me what you

mean by (see VLC)?

There are so many different things in JAWS and the feature names are not

familiar to me. I get lost in all the new words.

 

ThanksShannon

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(CHFS DMS)

Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2017 2:22 PM

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Subject: Re: New user here; JAWs questions and concerns

 

I Believe the tabs also work (see VLC).  It shows controls you can't see any

other way.  Wish it knew what they were!

 

Ted

 

-----Original Message-----

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Joseph Lee

Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 4:54 PM

To: main@jfw.groups.io

Subject: Re: New user here; JAWs questions and concerns

 

Hi,

There are two touch cursor navigation modes: basic and advanced. The basic

mode will let you navigate controls within an app (left and right arrows),

while advanced mode will let you navigate through object hierarchy/GUI

element tree structure.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

-----Original Message-----

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bill White

Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 1:45 PM

To: main@jfw.groups.io

Subject: Re: New user here; JAWs questions and concerns

 

No, This isn't the reason it isn't finding the controls. Rotor is only used

in Gesture mode. This is, I believe only applicable when using an actual

touch screen.

Bill White billwhite92701@...

----- Original Message -----

From: "Shannon" <shannon@...>

To: <main@jfw.groups.io>

Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 1:13 PM

Subject: Re: New user here; JAWs questions and concerns

 

 

> Bill,

> This is kind of cool. It could find some of the controls I know are

> there but can't reach. It doesn't find all of them though.

> I just popped into jaws 40 min mode to give this a brief test run. The

> arrow keys and the number pad  tab and shift tab move this guy around

> but I heard the numpad say something about rotering through different

> kinds of controls.

> I didn't know what that meant. Is that why it can't find the other

> things I know are there? They are different from the ones it did find?

> Mostly it found buttons and headers.

> Thanks for the info.

> Shannon

> -----Original Message-----

> From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of

> Mario

> Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 2:55 PM

> To: main@jfw.groups.io

> Subject: Re: New user here; JAWs questions and concerns

> Bill, so when using the touch cursor, there's no need to use the arrow

> keys, right? I'm asking because I really don't know how to use it.

> -------- Original Message --------

> From: Bill White [mailto:billwhite92701@...]

> Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 3:41 PM EST

> To: main@jfw.groups.io

> Subject: New user here; JAWs questions and concerns

> Hi, Shannon. To activate the Touch Cursor:

> 1.       Open the program you want to navigate.

> 2.

> Press SHIFT plus the plus sign on the Number Pad, or if using laptop

> layout,

> SHIFT+CAPS LOCK+SEMICOLON

> Once the Touch Cursor is active, use TAB and SHIFT plus TAB to

> navigate between the various controls. When you find a control you

> want to activate, press SPACE BAR.

> Bill White

> Billwhite92701@...

> From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of

> Shannon

> Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 12:32 PM

> To: main@jfw.groups.io

> Subject: Re: New user here; JAWs questions and concerns

> Oh, this could be the thing I am looking for. These three programs

> that are really giving me trouble are just like that! They have

> buttons and pull downs and menues that are not tab, shift, tab Ctrl

> Tab or arrow key reachable.

> To get to them the mouse find command was hit or miss and mostly missed.

> Any quicky pointers on this nifty little thing? I always wondered what

> perspective was being read when I used the number pad with JAWS? It

> never seamed to be doing what I thought it should. We uses the numpad

> for the mouse. So If this little thing is like a mouse only not a

> mouse, how do you control it? Can you click when you find it?

> Thanks

> Shannon

> From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of

> Randy Barnett

> Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 2:14 PM

> To: main@jfw.groups.io

> Subject: Re: New user here; JAWs questions and concerns

> There are basically 3 cursors. The regular PC cursor that is the

> default and used most often. it navigates the controls using tab and

> arrow keys. the second is the Jaws cursor that moves the mouse pointer

> with the arrow keys.

> this is usually only used when PC cursor wont work. the touch cursor

> was Jaws fix for windows using things that don't work with the first

> two cursors. It is used with the left right arrow keys. I only started

> using the touch cursor in windows 10. It is not as complicated as it

> sounds once you have used them for a wile.

> On 5/17/2017 12:01 PM, Shannon wrote:

> That is the second time I have heard about this touch curser?

> So Jaws has 4 kinds of cursers? Jaws curser,virtual curser PC curser

> Mouse over lay, and now a Touch curser?

> Oh boy. What is a touch curser for? If that is for a tablet then I can

> not worry about it. I don't have one of those.

> Audio ducking sounds like a good thing. I can't tell you or most

> likely, I don't have to tell you, how annoying and difficult to deal

> with the sounds from a web page while useing a screen reader at the same

time.

> From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of

> Joseph Lee

> Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 1:53 PM

> To: main@jfw.groups.io

> Subject: Re: New user here; JAWs questions and concerns

> Hi,

> At least for now, Window-Eyes will work on Windows 10 (including the

> latest release which is Creators Update), but that's not always going

> to be so in the future. There are certain features introduced in later

> JAWS releases that makes Windows 10 and universal apps a bit easier to

> use, the most important of which is touch cursor (JAWS 15). There are

> also features that takes advantage of Windows 8.x and 10 functionality

> such as audio ducking (JAWS 18); regarding audio ducking, it has

> received mixed reviews.

> Cheers,

> Joseph

> From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of

> Shannon

> Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 11:43 AM

> To: main@jfw.groups.io

> Subject: Re: New user here; JAWs questions and concerns

> Randy ,

> You know, I strongly suspected that to be the case. I was too afraid

> to get Win 10 when they were offering it so I didn't. Sigh.

> Too many things could have gone wrong and then what would I do?

> Now I am stuck with it. And now it looks like there is a newer version

> coming out? Creator?

> Oh boy!

> Thanks

> Shannon

> From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of

> Randy Barnett

> Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 1:21 PM

> To: main@jfw.groups.io

> Subject: Re: New user here; JAWs questions and concerns

> Its windows 8.1! Universally disliked. :) Just my opinion but win 10

> is better than win 8.1 and I dont care for win 10 all that much. But

> to be fair it isnt terrible either I just think win 7 is better.

> On 5/17/2017 10:42 AM, Shannon wrote:

> I am running windows 8.1.

> I am not a big fan of it either. Actually I am not sure what exactly I

> don't like. This computer has been goofy since I got it. Not sure if

> it was Windows or WE but it gives me fits all the time in all the

> programs mentioned. Don't really  know which is the culprit.

> Thanks

> Shannon

> From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of

> Randy Barnett

> Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 12:27 PM

> To: main@jfw.groups.io

> Subject: Re: New user here; JAWs questions and concerns

> Jaws works with office 2010 pretty well. Surfing the web and doing

> most tasks. Witch version of windows do you have at work? win 7 is my

> preference and most business's still use it.

> On 5/17/2017 10:19 AM, Dennis L wrote:

> Jaws works fine with office 2010.  It can surf the web fine.

> From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of

> Shannon

> Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 1:01 PM

> To: main@jfw.groups.io

> Subject: New user here; JAWs questions and concerns

> Good morning,

> I am a potential new user of JAWS. I would be one of many conversions

> from WindowEyes.

> I have downloaded the trial of JAWS 18 and pretty concerned about what

> it can and cannot do.

> I know that there is a large learning curve I will have to go through,

> and that is only one of my concerns.

> I have been reading the list for the last few days and a few things

> mentioned by others concern me.

> I also use here at work Office 2010, Outlook, Word and Excel all the time.

> I saw a mention of excel not working well with JAWS? Is that true?

> That would be a deal breaker for me.

> I use spread sheets every single day to do my job. I also use on a

> daily basis the MS Query feature. Will JAWS handle the queries?

> I make mail merge documents frequently and they tie to the MS Databases.

> Will Jaws work with outlook 2010? I have over 10 different email

> profiles set up and I need access to them.

> Does JAWS have a way to search the screen for text or buttons to be

> clicked by the mouse or a "HotSpot" feature as WE did/does? I use that

> feature everyday along with custom scripts to get access to the time

> keeping software programs.

> The language in the control panel seams so foreign to me. I can't

> tell, but it seems as if Jaws acknowledges 4 kinds of cursers? A

> virtual curser, a JAWS curser, PC Curser, and something called Mouse

> overlay?

> Is the Jaws curser the mouse? What is the Mouse overlay? Can I read

> the screen with the mouse?

> Since I am new and don't know how it works and how to configure it I

> can't tell what I can and can't do.

> I can tell that many functions of the accounting program, and the

> three programs that are involved in time tracking do not behave well

> and most likely are going to require special custom scripts.

> Before I spend a lot of money and time I want to know if Jaws can even

> do the little stuff like Office and surfing the web?

> If JAWS doesn't like Office 2010 what version does it like?

> Thanks for your time.

> Shannon

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