Re: Mouse Echo Layer


Bill White <billwhite92701@...>
 

Mouse Echo is only in JAWS 18.

Bill White
Billwhite92701@dslextreme.com

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mario
Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2017 7:08 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Mouse Echo Layer

like Ted, I'm using JAWS 16 and insert+spacebar e doesn't announce
anything. following up with the choices doesn't make a difference, not
even the windows ding.


-------- Original Message --------
From: Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS) [mailto:ted.lisle@ky.gov]
Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2017 9:07 AM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Mouse Echo Layer

Interesting, Bill. I tried it a while ago, and it said nothing. Maybe
I should follow up with one of the choices, or look at the help file.

Ted

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 8:23 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Mouse Echo Layer

No, I think it has been in JAWS since at least JAWS 16.
Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mario" <mrb620@hotmail.com>
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Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 5:15 PM
Subject: Re: Mouse Echo Layer


Bill, the mouse Echo command is only for JAWS 18, right?


-------- Original Message --------
From: Bill White [mailto:billwhite92701@dslextreme.com]
Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 3:55 PM EST
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Mouse Echo Layer

Hi again, Sieghard. One other item I will mention is that under the JAWS
context menu, which I reach by using the keystroke INSERT plus the
letter J, then open basic settings. The first setting,

Tutor messages, announce menu and control help radio button checked. If
you use one of the other settings in this dialogue, you will not get all
the control announcements. This might be the reason for INSERT plus
SPACE BAR, E not echoing correctly.



Bill White

Billwhite92701@dslextreme.com



From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 10:18 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Mouse Echo Layer



Hi Bill and Joseph,



I am using Jaws 18.0.2740 which is the latest built.

When I press Jaws Key+Spacebar I hear the little tone it makes, then
when I press “e” Jaws simply echos “e”. As I said, if I do “O” it does
correctly say OCR.

I am using intermediate verbocity, but I did consider this already and
changed it to beginner and it makes no difference.

Not sure why it doesn’t properly say what the keystroke is, but as I
said, it’s not a big deal and at this point it’s not worth it for me to
spend more time trying to figure it out especially since pressing any
other key in the sequence does what it is supposed to do and the action
is properly spoken, e.g. on, off, characters, words, lines.

.



Regards,

Sieghard



From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Joseph
Lee
Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 9:52 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Mouse Echo Layer



Hi,

Or perhaps, what verbosity level are you using?

Cheers,

Joseph



From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bill
White
Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 9:44 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Mouse Echo Layer



Which version of JAWS are you running when you encounter this behavior
of JAWS not saying

“Mouse Echo Layer?”



Bill White

Billwhite92701@dslextreme.com



From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 9:13 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Mouse Echo Layer



Thanks Bill, if I follow the Jaws Key+Spacebar and E with one of the
letters you mention Jaws will say on, off, character, word or line, it
just does not say the initial “Mouse Echo Layer”, not sure why that is
because when I do the layered command for OCR it will say “OCR” before I
press any of the secondary commands like d for documents, s for screen
etc. Not a big deal, at least I can turn it on or off and set the echo
to try this out.



Regards,

Sieghard





From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bill
White
Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 9:08 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Mouse Echo Layer



Hi, Sieghard. Your JAWS is not working as expected. When I do the command:

INSERT plus SPACE BAR, then the letter E, my JAWS says:

Mouse Echo Layer



It expects one of the following commands:

C for character,

W for word,

L for line,

P for paragraph,

O for on or off,



Bill White

Billwhite92701@dslextreme.com



From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 8:15 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Mouse Echo Layer



Hi David,



I read about this feature also and have been meaning to try it. However,
while I can find Mouse Echo in the Settings Centre when default settings
are loaded, the layered keystroke Jaws Key+Spacebar followed by E does
not say anything, e.g. it is not like Jaws Key+Spacebar followed by O
which says “OCR” or Jaws Key+Spacebar followed by Shift+H which says
“Speech History Cleared”.

Shouldn’t it say “Mouse Echo On” or “Mouse Echo Off”?



From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of David
Moore
Sent: Monday, May 15, 2017 11:09 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Mouse Echo Layer



Hi Bill,

The Mouse echo feature, when it is turned on with the key command you
just said, enables one to use a mouse or the touch pad on your laptop
and JAWS will say what you move the mouse pointer over. It works pretty
well, and it allows you to move the mouse pointer around and here what
you are moving it over so you can use the mouse and click just like a
sighted person. NVDA has had this feature built into it for a long time.
With JAWS, the mouse echo feature does not play any tones like NVDA does
to let you know where the pointer is on the screen, but you can navigate
the screen pretty well with this feature in JAWS. When you are done
using the Mouse echo, just use the same key command Insert+Space bar and
then e to turn it off. I have it set to say words as the mouse moves
around the screen.

Take care!

David Moore

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From: Bill White <mailto:billwhite92701@dslextreme.com>
Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 1:43 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Mouse Echo Layer



Can anyone direct me as to where to find more information on what the
Mouse Echo Layer command does, INSERT plus SPACE BAR, then the letter E?



I want to know what it enables, and how to use the feature it enables.



Thank you.



Bill White

Billwhite92701@dslextreme.com















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