Re: New user here; JAWs questions and concerns


Kimber Gardner
 

Don't let all the features/cursors overwhelm you. I've been a jaws
user for nearly 20 years, but I have not had to know about all the
different cursor types.

On 5/17/17, Shannon <shannon@bartchroofing.com> wrote:
Oh, now you are teasing me? How on earth do you keep track of all of that?
6 cursers???

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From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mario
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 2:33 PM
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Joseph, isn't there also a braille cursor?


-------- Original Message --------
From: Joseph Lee [mailto:joseph.lee22590@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 3:10 PM EST
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Subject: New user here; JAWs questions and concerns

Hi,

This actually makes it five:

* PC cursor: system focus, caret movement and so on.
* JAWS cursor: mouse manipulation and screen review.
* Mouse echo: JAWS speaking content under the mouse as the mouse
moves.
* Virtual PC cursor: used for web browsing.
* Touch cursor: ability to move between controls that cannot be
navigated to via the keyboard and/or mouse. This is not limited to tablets
-
it can be used on desktops and use of this cursor is essential in Windows
10
and universal apps (ask me offlist if you have questions about what
universal apps are).



Cheers,

Joseph



From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Shannon
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 12:01 PM
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That is the second time I have heard about this touch curser?

So Jaws has 4 kinds of cursers? Jaws curser,virtual curser PC curser Mouse
over lay, and now a Touch curser?

Oh boy. What is a touch curser for? If that is for a tablet then I can not
worry about it. I don't have one of those.

Audio ducking sounds like a good thing. I can't tell you or most likely, I
don't have to tell you, how annoying and difficult to deal with the sounds
from a web page while useing a screen reader at the same time.



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[mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 1:53 PM
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Hi,

At least for now, Window-Eyes will work on Windows 10 (including the latest
release which is Creators Update), but that's not always going to be so in
the future. There are certain features introduced in later JAWS releases
that makes Windows 10 and universal apps a bit easier to use, the most
important of which is touch cursor (JAWS 15). There are also features that
takes advantage of Windows 8.x and 10 functionality such as audio ducking
(JAWS 18); regarding audio ducking, it has received mixed reviews.

Cheers,

Joseph



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[mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Shannon
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 11:43 AM
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Randy ,

You know, I strongly suspected that to be the case. I was too afraid to get
Win 10 when they were offering it so I didn't. Sigh.

Too many things could have gone wrong and then what would I do?

Now I am stuck with it. And now it looks like there is a newer version
coming out? Creator?

Oh boy!

Thanks

Shannon

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[mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Randy Barnett
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Its windows 8.1! Universally disliked. :) Just my opinion but win 10 is
better than win 8.1 and I dont care for win 10 all that much. But to be
fair
it isnt terrible either I just think win 7 is better.
On 5/17/2017 10:42 AM, Shannon wrote:

I am running windows 8.1.

I am not a big fan of it either. Actually I am not sure what exactly I
don't
like. This computer has been goofy since I got it. Not sure if it was
Windows or WE but it gives me fits all the time in all the programs
mentioned. Don't really know which is the culprit.



Thanks

Shannon

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[mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Randy Barnett
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Jaws works with office 2010 pretty well. Surfing the web and doing most
tasks. Witch version of windows do you have at work? win 7 is my preference
and most business's still use it.
On 5/17/2017 10:19 AM, Dennis L wrote:

Jaws works fine with office 2010. It can surf the web fine.






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[mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Shannon
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Subject: New user here; JAWs questions and concerns



Good morning,

I am a potential new user of JAWS. I would be one of many conversions from
WindowEyes.

I have downloaded the trial of JAWS 18 and pretty concerned about what it
can and cannot do.

I know that there is a large learning curve I will have to go through, and
that is only one of my concerns.

I have been reading the list for the last few days and a few things
mentioned by others concern me.

I also use here at work Office 2010, Outlook, Word and Excel all the time.

I saw a mention of excel not working well with JAWS? Is that true? That
would be a deal breaker for me.

I use spread sheets every single day to do my job. I also use on a daily
basis the MS Query feature. Will JAWS handle the queries?

I make mail merge documents frequently and they tie to the MS Databases.



Will Jaws work with outlook 2010? I have over 10 different email profiles
set up and I need access to them.

Does JAWS have a way to search the screen for text or buttons to be clicked
by the mouse or a "HotSpot" feature as WE did/does? I use that feature
everyday along with custom scripts to get access to the time keeping
software programs.

The language in the control panel seams so foreign to me. I can't tell, but
it seems as if Jaws acknowledges 4 kinds of cursers? A virtual curser, a
JAWS curser, PC Curser, and something called Mouse overlay?

Is the Jaws curser the mouse? What is the Mouse overlay? Can I read the
screen with the mouse?



Since I am new and don't know how it works and how to configure it I can't
tell what I can and can't do.

I can tell that many functions of the accounting program, and the three
programs that are involved in time tracking do not behave well and most
likely are going to require special custom scripts.

Before I spend a lot of money and time I want to know if Jaws can even do
the little stuff like Office and surfing the web?

If JAWS doesn't like Office 2010 what version does it like?

Thanks for your time.

Shannon
















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