-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Randy
Barnett
Sent: May-16-17 12:10 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: jaws 18 and password fields?

OK, that's splitting hairs... The characters in your password are spoken as
you choose them. My point still stands that the majority of VO users just
type the password as they hear the characters. Pretty much the same thing as
the OP wants...
On 5/15/2017 9:03 PM, James Homuth wrote:

VO speaks the characters I'm moving over if I happen to be looking for
the letter I need. If I'm in a password field, VO does not speak the
character I decide to actually enter. And yes, if you're comfortable
enough using the iPhone's on-screen keyboard, or indeed if you're
using a bluetooth keyboard, there are ways to have it so VO doesn't even

do that.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Randy Barnett
Sent: May-16-17 12:01 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: jaws 18 and password fields?

When you type using VO the characters are spoken how else do you know
what characters you are typing? Unless you have some silent way of
knowing what character your finger is on I don't see how you have
never heard your I Phone speak your password.
On 5/15/2017 8:55 PM, James Homuth wrote:

Um. My iPhone has never once spoken a password to me. If yours is,
that's probably a broken thing.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Randy Barnett
Sent: May-15-17 11:38 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: jaws 18 and password fields?

Again people who use Jaws often have other disabilities that make
things hard for them to do... Acting as if they are being
unreasonable or ignorant in there wants is not helpful to anyone...
If they need to hear the characters it is not your or my place to

question them...

Jaws could read the characters without having them visible in speech
history. I don't see this as a issue if the person is alone or
doesn't care if the person with them hears the code. I Phone's speak
the passwords no matter what you want no one is saying don't use
IPhones

because of it...

On 5/15/2017 8:28 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:

I think allowing to make the password visible/audible could
potentially

result in many issues, after all, sighted people can't see it why
should we hear it? This is one situation where I think it is our
responsibility to improve our typing skills so we can reliably enter
a password. Imagine if it were in clear text, anybody who knows about
Jaws speech history could bring that up and see if they can't find a

passsword in there.

Regards,
Sieghard

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Randy Barnett
Sent: Monday, May 15, 2017 8:22 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: jaws 18 and password fields?

Maybe you can ask VFO to add this feature to Jaws as they obviously
have

the code from Window Eyes. If they get enough feedback they may
include the best of window eyes into jaws and give us a better screen

reader...

I can hope. :)
On 5/15/2017 8:07 PM, netbat66 wrote:

i already don't like jaws. window eyes has the option to speak the
passwords you type in.
too bad its gone.
i am alone unless a ghost is listening in.
i am a 2 finger /two thumbed typer. grin.
most sites only give you 3 chances to type in your password before
you are locked out.


-----Original Message----- From: Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Monday, May 15, 2017 7:31 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: jaws 18 and password fields?

On very few occasions I see a password field where there is a "Show"
button or something along those lines which if you click it will
then reveal the password. But most password fields don't have it
for obvious security reasons and in those cases you can't make the
password visible or make it so you hear the characters instead of
"star". If you aren't confident enough to type without the feedback
or if another physical problem prevents you from doing so then what
you describe is probably the best solution, type the password in
Notepad and copy and paste it. As an alternative you could use a
password manager which would fill the user name and password field
for you once a password has been saved, but here you still have to
enter a master password to unlock the saved password. Only thing is
that the master password is the same for all passwords and at least
with Roboform you can specify a time interval during which the
passwords stay unlocked, e.g. if you set it to 3 hours then for 3
hours after you enter the master password you wouldn't have to
enter it again. I assume other password managers have a similar
feature, but I can't be sure since I have only ever used Roboform.

Regards,
Sieghard

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
netbat66
Sent: Monday, May 15, 2017 2:23 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: jaws 18 and password fields?

can password fields be changed so i can hear what i type in?
if i can't i would have to type them in notepad and paste them into
the fields.



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