Re: help with punctuation

Adrian Spratt


While in JAWS 12, I just tested whether a new insert-v punctuation setting
would hold after exiting and returning to Outlook 2003. It didn't. Other
listers and I have found the same thing in the past, hence the convoluted
ways people have found to work around JAWS's peculiar punctuation setup.

If you've tried the insert-v method yourself and confirmed that it works for
you, I'll have to find out why it doesn't for me. I certainly wish it did.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@... [mailto:jfw-bounces@...]
On Behalf Of Dean Martineau
Sent: Sunday, November 06, 2011 8:37 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: help with punctuation

In JFW12, while in your mail program, if you press Insert+v, then P, you can
adjust the punctuation level for that program. The setting remains in
effect the next and subsequent times you run the program.


-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@... [mailto:jfw-bounces@...]
On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Saturday, November 05, 2011 6:48 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: help with punctuation


From what you say, JAWS 13 has the same limitation here that JAWS 12 and
earlier versions have. The following is a slightly modified version of an
earlier post of mine.

Permanent punctuation settings are not made in the configuration manager.
Instead, you find them in JAWS options (insert-j), then by arrowing down to
and clicking on the voices submenu. From there you press enter on voice
adjustment and tab to punctuation.

The default setting is for global voices. However, you want different levels
of punctuation for different applications. In JAWS 11, this requires
creating a voice profile.
Below, I'll copy the example Bill white posted to this list to suggest how
this can be done. Let me say that this process is ridiculously complicated
for a setting that many JAWS users would want to change from time to time.
Other listers will write in if the process has been changed, and hopefully
simplified, in JAWS 13. Here goes:

I have an example of a profile that goes with OE. I called the profile oe,
as in o e, and the thing I wanted to change was the punctuation. In the
configuration manager, it is impossible to have punctuation set to none,
unless you customize every single punctuation entry. But in the Profile,
there is a selection, Punctuation none.
So I set the punctuation to none, and also slowed down the voice so that it
would be slower than my default voice.
In this way, I customized OE, so it would not read all the punctuation, and
would have a slower reading rate.
After saving the profile, I started OE. Then I Pressed Insert+J to bring up
the Jaws context menu. From there I went back to options, voices, select
profile, and selected OE. Then I checked the box that said: For OE.
It was done, and whenever OE starts, it comes up with the parameters I set
in the JAWS profile.

** Punctuation Levels

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@... [mailto:jfw-bounces@...]
On Behalf Of Phyllis Stevens
Sent: Saturday, November 05, 2011 8:32 PM
To: jfw@...
Subject: help with punctuation

Just upgraded to Jaws 13. Using Windows Live Mail latest. I merged with
Jaws 12.0, and chose no punctuation.

I am getting all sorts of punctuation in my email! I don't mind it in note
pad or word, but I don't want to here it when I am trying to just read my
email! How can I stop this? I don't wish to put ( in the dictionary as a
space! Help?

When boundaries are present, there is fear.
When wholeness and unity is recognized, fear cannot exist.
- James A. Ray

Phyllis, Emmy and her kitties
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