Re: What kind of tech support is that?

Gary King

The two solutions that you are comparing don't have the same purpose. Running JFW with the /default switch just lets you test the program temporarily with only the default settings and scripts. This helps you determine if any settings or third-party scripts in your user settings folder are at fault.

The other posted solution tells you what to do if the test you just ran proves that user settings or third-party scripts are the cause of your problem. It tells you how to get rid of them and start over with the default settings and scripts. Backing up any third-party scripts preserves them for placing back in the user settings folder later, preferably one at a time if you suspect that one of them may be at fault.

Gary King

----- Original Message -----
From: "Adrian Spratt" <Adrian@...>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@...>
Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2011 6:10 AM
Subject: RE: What kind of tech support is that?

Hi. I'm glad you posted FS's instructions, but I think the suggestion
Matthew posted the other day on this topic is safer and less time-consuming.
Here's what he wrote:

I believe you should be able to simulate resetting your Jaws settings if you
unload Jaws and then use the run dialog with Windows key R, then type jaws13
/default This way, it will reload Jaws, but it will act like it did when
first installed. Then you can see if the problem clears up.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@... [mailto:jfw-bounces@...]
On Behalf Of Kimber Gardner
Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2011 6:50 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: What kind of tech support is that?


Here are the instructions FS sent me for deleting all settings.

To set JAWS to the defaults:

If you are using any third party scripts, back them up first.

1. Press the windows logo key to open the Start Menu.

2. Press the letter P for Programs or go to the all programs sub-menu.

3. Press the letter J till you come to the JAWS version you are looking for
and press enter.

4. Press Enter on Explore JAWS.

5. Down arrow to explore my settings and press Enter.

6. Press control+A to select all settings then hold down the shift key and
press the delete key. If prompted, press enter on yes.

7. Restart JAWS.

On 11/3/11, Robert Logue <bobcat11@...> wrote: How does one
reset user dialog items to default? I could not find that in settings

I wonder what happens if one deletes everything in the user folder including
all the sub folders. Would Jaws recreate them or would this really mess it

For example: PersistenceLevelInfo.ini SettingsCenter.ini Classic.SMF
PlaceMarkers File Folder PersonalizedSettings File Folder Sounds File Folder
transient-session File Folder transient-focus File Folder

----- Original Message -----

From: "Farfar on Laptop" <dgcarlson@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2011 6:49 AM
Subject: Re: What kind of tech support is that?


Agree that the suggestion is nebulous, but it just underscores that they
don't have a clue, or that they can't duplicate what you're experiencing.
The latter is usually what happens to me -- their exact setup matching mine
works just fine for them.

As to their suggestion of "resetting the JAWS user settings" all I can think
of is either clear out all your user-defined scripts from the ENU folder
(which you only do after backing them all up somewhere), or using the
settings center and setting the user dialog items to their default values.

Dave Carlson Sent from my Dell Latitude E6520 using Windows 7, San Francisco
Bay Area
----- Original Message -----
From: "Kimber Gardner" <kimbersinbox1963@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2011 04:01
Subject: What kind of tech support is that?

Hi All,

A week or so ago I posted to the list an issue I was having with Jaws 13
where in my braille display freezes at random times in random applications.
I emailed FS tech support as well and here is the answer I received.

"Please try resetting your JAWS user settings. This often clears up issues
of this type."

Now maybe it's me, but what the heck kind of tech support is that? I mean
this is a brand new release and I'm reporting an issue that has never
happened in earlier releases and *that* is the answer I get?

Really FS needs to do better by its long-time customers.


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