Re: JAWS 17 and 18 have some basic inherent flaw.

Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)

I had to do just that during my misadventure with 11-12.  As I recall, FS changed the video intercept about that time, so, once 11 or 12 was installed, 10 exhibited problems.  The only remedy was to totally uninstall the newer version, thereby breaking the older version.  Then it was install and repair time .  It always worked, but was a hassle.




From: [] On Behalf Of Dave Carlson
Sent: Friday, December 09, 2016 12:47 PM
Subject: Re: JAWS 17 and 18 have some basic inherent flaw.




While that approach is one way to clearly clean out any residual issues, I'd be reluctant to use such a draconian approach, since it would then leave me with no previous version to fall back on.


I'd have to uninstall the latest, and go back to my earliest (version 15) and reinstall each one again in sequence, in order that the earlier versions would once again function. I might consider this if I have

an open stretch of time to take on a project like this.


Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer



----- Original Message -----

From: Brian Vogel

Sent: Friday, December 09, 2016 07:53

Subject: Re: JAWS 17 and 18 have some basic inherent flaw.


I can't, and won't try to, speak to the issues anyone might be having with JAWS 17 or 18.

What I can speak to, though, is that very often, for any software, if you are using the "install over" method of installation or upgrade method a tiny problem will be introduced that shouldn't be (and not through the fault of the user - you don't control the installation/upgrade software).  These can be carried along and unintentionally built upon until they bring things to a grinding halt.

Tim said, "I completely uninstalled every piece of FS software, other than Open Book, and did a new install of JAWS 16 from the installation CD."  I'm not saying that I know the answer to the question I'm about to pose, "What would have happened had you done the same with JAWS 17 or JAWS 18?"

The "uninstall it all" reboot, and reinstall from scratch technique sometimes works to resolve what seem to be insoluble problems.  If you want to be really thorough after the initial uninstall and reboot, you might want to run a utility such as Revo Uninstaller to be sure that there are no vestigial traces of the prior installations anywhere.  Some uninstallers are much better than others about cleaning up after themselves.

I've solved a number of problems with various JAWS installations for releases well before either 17 or 18 by taking this approach.  It may solve nothing for all I know, but it's definitely worth a try to see whether it does.


A great many people think they are thinking when they are merely rearranging their prejudices.

         ~ William James

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