I would call FS support and ask them about it. If they first tell you no and you are stuck with it, nudge them a little. It's what I had to do with the guy I had on the phone today. But once he decided to put his mind to it he got me the right solution. I suspect there may be a way of doing it with speech and sound schemes.
Kimber
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On Jun 2, 2016, at 9:51 AM, Matthew Bullis <matthewbullisaz@...> wrote:
Are there similar instructions on how to get Jaws not to say cell cell cell every time it moves over a cell in a table? Thanks, Matthew
On Jun 2, 2016, at 5:08 AM, Kimber Gardner <kimbersinbox1963@...> wrote:
I can happily report that these steps worked fabulously. I'm dancing with joy over here. No more vertical tab announcement! Woow!
Thanks, Mike, for sharing these steps.
On 6/2/16, Mike B. <mb69mach1@...> wrote: Hi All,
Here are steps from another list, & this dude that wrote the steps is 1 of the smartest computer / Jaws users I've ever come across!
From: Brian Lee Hello Tom,
The following steps should work: 1. Press JAWS key with D to bring up the dictionary manager.
2. Use CTRL with Shift and D to load the default dictionary manager.
3. Tab to the tree view and press E for English.
4. Expand the English option by using right arrow key.
5. Use down arrow key and find the appropriate synthesizer. You can also press E for Eloquence, V for ?Vocalizer, V until you find Vocalizer Expressive, etc.
6. Use right arrow to open the appropriate synthesizer item.
7. Press a backslash key until you find a backslash followed by 011. JAWS should tell you that this equals Vertical Tab.
8. Tab to the Change button and press spacebar.
9. In the Actual Word field should be the \011. Tab to the Replacement Word field and press spacebar one time.
10. Tab to OK and use spacebar.
11. Use CTRL with S to save changes.
12. Close the window using Alt with F4.
13. You might or might not need to restart JAWS. The above worked for me using a Vocalizer Expressive profile. Take care. Brian Lee brianllee@...
Take care. Mike FAILURE IS NOT AN OPTION! It comes bundled with the software. Go Dodgers! ----- Original Message ----- From: Gary King To: main@jfw.groups.io Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2016 8:58 PM Subject: Re: How To Stop Jaws From Saying "Vertical Tab"
Tom, Can you place the PC cursor on the symbol that is indicated by JAWS as a vertical tab? If so, place it there and bring up the JAWS Dictionary with JAWS Key d. Then press Control Shift d if you want the replacement to be in all programs. Press Spacebar on the Add Button. The symbol should appear in the Actual Word field. Then put a space in the Replacement Word field. Press Enter, Control s to save and then exit the JAWS Dictionary.
Gary King w4wkz@... ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Behler" <tombehler@...> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2016 9:04 PM Subject: Re: How To Stop Jaws From Saying "Vertical Tab"
Bill:
I tried this, but still no luck.
Tom Behler
-----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bill White Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2016 9:41 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: How To Stop Jaws From Saying "Vertical Tab"
Putting 11 in the dictionary won't work. the way ASCII values are expressed is with the Shift plus the number six on the numbers row below the F keys followed by the ASCII value which in this case is 11. Bill White billwhite92701@... ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Behler" <tombehler@...> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2016 6:22 PM Subject: Re: How To Stop Jaws From Saying "Vertical Tab"
Ok, Bill.
I put 11 in the first Jaws dictionary field, followed by a space, but still no luck.
It may be time to call FS on this issue.
I'm not sure iff I'll get to it tomorrow, but if I do, I'll keep everyone posted.
Thanks all for your patience.
And, of course, I'll continue to take any and all suggestions.
Tom behler
-----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bill White Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2016 9:17 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: How To Stop Jaws From Saying "Vertical Tab"
Hi, Tom. The character which is voicing as a vertical tab has an ASCII value of eleven. Bill White billwhite92701@... ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Behler" <tombehler@...> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2016 6:14 PM Subject: Re: How To Stop Jaws From Saying "Vertical Tab"
Carolyn:
Bill White set me straight regarding step 4 of your instructions.
I actually wrote the words vertical tab in the add edit field that came up in the Jaws dictionary, and put a space in the replacement field.
But, still no luck.
I think this is because the vertical tab is some sort of a computer character.
Thanks to Bill for the clarification.
Tom Behler
-----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2016 7:35 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: How To Stop Jaws From Saying "Vertical Tab"
Try:
1. Insert-F2 for JAWS Manager. 2. D for dictionary. 3. Control-Shift-D for default in all programs. 4. Write vertical tab. 5. Next tab hit a Spacebar. 6. Alt-F4, save changes and exit.
I don't know if that will work since this vertical tab statement from JAWS might be from program or graphics as opposed to text, but it wouldn't hurt to see if that gave you any relief. Bye for now,
Carolyn
-----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tom Behler Sent: Wednesday, June 1, 2016 5:08 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: How To Stop Jaws From Saying "Vertical Tab"
Hello, everyone.
As you may recall, I'm working to get Office 365 up and running on a fairly new Windows 7 laptop. I am using the latest build of Jaws 17.
I have noticed that in many Outlook 2016 e-mails, and especially in Microsoft Word documents, Jaws keeps saying "vertical tab", as I navigate whatever it is I'm reading.
I don't recall encountering this behavior in the previous versions of Outlook and Word that I have used.
How can I get Jaws to stop reading the vertical tabs, whatever they are?
As I'm sure yu can imagine, this vertical tab designation is very distracting.
Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan
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