Re: Netflix not accessible to blind people using a laptop and screen reading software.

Daniel McBride

I am using Internet Explorer at all times.


From: Greg Nickel []
Sent: Monday, November 30, 2015 11:50 AM
Subject: Re: Netflix not accessible to blind people using a laptop and screen reading software.


I can get it to function generally speaking with Chrome…certainly better than with IE when I encountered problems with IE I switched browsers.  Not totally functional but better.  I use JFW14 and win 7.



From: Robert Logue [mailto:bobcat11@...]
Sent: Monday, November 30, 2015 9:46 AM
Subject: Re: Netflix not accessible to blind people using a laptop and screen reading software.


Daniel. Amaizing.  I couldn't get Netflix to work at all with Jaws 16 windows 7 64.
I was using Firefox.  This was a couple months ago.  I gave up.



On 11/30/2015 10:37 AM, Daniel McBride wrote:

Hello Tim:


Can you please clarify the accessibility issue we need address with Netflix? On my Toshiba laptop, using Windows 8 and JAWS 14, I can get onto Netflix, manage to utilize the Search field, find the movie, documentary or television program I desire and get it to play. This is without Audio Description. And I am not able to select a specific season and episode of a television program, such as Star Trek Next Generation. I am simply stuck with playing whichever season and episode is next up in my account.


I am going to email Netflix as requested in your email here. I just want to be clear about what our hurdles are as blind persons using Netflix. I will also add that I am a Rhapsody Music subscriber and the problems with Rhapsody are worse than Netflix, if anyone is interested.


Thanks for your efforts.


Dan McBride

Fort Worth, Texas


From: Tim Ford [mailto:ttford@...]
Sent: Monday, November 30, 2015 11:05 AM
Subject: Netflix not accessible to blind people using a laptop and screen reading software.


Hi All,


For those out there who want to use Netflix, here is an email I received last evening that contains instructions on how to contact the right people.  As mentioned in the note, Netflix is still not very interested in fixing things, and your continued emails to Netflix are encouraged to keep some pressure on them.


Tim Ford



Sent: Sunday, November 29, 2015 9:46 PM

Subject: Re: Netflix not accessible to blind people using a laptop and screen reading software.


This is kate! I am so sorry that your email has not been replied to yet but we get a ton, and I mean, a ton of email. Robert Kingett is the CEO and we are still trying to make them see what you highlighted as well as others. To be quite frank, they would rather not even bother with us, but we keep emailing and calling and bugging them, professionally, I may add. In our experience, we never hear a sincere, sorry! Let's work on these layout designs for JAWS OR NVDA users and I doubt we will unless we keep pushing them like we have been doing. Would you like to email Robert Kingett, He can give you more contacts than I can. I am just the email manager. :) Below is a message we just got that may help.

Hope you're well and thanks for your e-mail. 
Going forward, can I suggest you contact Marlee Tart in the global PR team please (her e-mail address is: mtart@...). 
From your recent queries it's clear that your questions are at global scale as opposed to regional/local, and this e-mail address reaches the Australian and New Zealand PR agency team (and we don't actually have visibility into a lot of the areas you're interested in). 
I've dropped Marlee a line to let her know you'll be in touch. 


On 6/24/2015 5:32 PM, Tim Ford wrote:

To Whom It May Concern,


Below I have pasted in an email I sent Monday to what is supposedly the engineering group for Netflix; a Netflix telephone representative gave me the address.  Today someone told me about your group, and I applaude you for your efforts that certainly seem to be the motivating factor for Netflix to start providing AD.  Please let me know if you have any suggestions on any of the issues covered in my post below.



Tim Ford



From: Tim Ford

Sent: Monday, June 22, 2015 5:57 PM

Subject: Netflix not accessible to blind people using a laptop and screen reading software.


Dear Netflix,


I am blind, and use a Windows 7 laptop.  Up until a week or so ago, your web site was extremely hard to navigate, but at least I could start a video.  Now, after your web page design changes implemented a few days ago, I cannot even start a video.


I am using the latest update of JAWS version 16; JAWS is the world’s most widely used screen reading software for the blind.  I tried accessing your service with IE, Firefox, and Chrome, but could not get a video to start.  With IE, I cannot even activate my profile.


I am a fairly experienced Internet user, and if there is a way to navigate your site with a screen reader, I have not figured it out.  I am using the recommended common settings for JAWS, and I have no problems with some other video streaming services.


Back a few weeks ago, Netflix announced the addition of audio description.  That is a great move, and I applaud you for that.  However, in a very ironic twist, it is not possible for a blind person to select the audio described version, even though one is on the part of your site that contains only audio described programs.  Why add that extra step?  If one is on the audio description page, the user obviously wants the audio described version, so why not make that the default?


In general, there seems to be a huge gap between your marketing department and the technology group.  Netflix marketing is advertising this new and wonderful audio description service, but a blind person simply cannot navigate the site, especially after the rollout of your new web page design.


In closing, I am using a Windows laptop, and I do not have a smart phone.  The issues I am asking you to please fix are just for us old-fashioned blind folks using a Windows computer.


I know from experience that screen reader accessibility is a very narrow specialty and skill set, so if you do not have such an expert on staff, you could either hire one or contract with one of the accessibility consultant experts that will help you become and stay accessible.


I am happy to volunteer by helping you test any changes; I have done that in the past for a number of web service companies.  Please advise, and much thanks.



Tim Ford

Phone:  916-538-6415




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