Re: JAWS saying the thing that is not

Dorothy <dorothy.ingram-gorban@...>

Yes of course you are right it was a turn of phrase. In my case a good
while ago, I had to get to the bottom of the problem, It was actually
diagnosed by a young man doing research name was Will pearson, I do not
know where will is now. But it was confirmed only when unable to bear any
more I recorded everything and as I have said before I sent it all to Dr Lee
Hamilton at st Petersberg., why dr Hamilton? I was sent an email by a
sighted friend saying"bigwigs at Fs and I read their cv and he seemed
clever. I rang in advance and spoke to his Pa,her name was Grace, she told
me how to address the package and she personally would see dr Hamilton got
it. Well after a while I had a phone call from Bryan carver director of
technical support. He told me "you are right we ran tests and replicated all
the problems you had. I asked when will you fix it please? He said I fear
we cannot,reason it could not be fixed by a script, if that were possible
the script writer at the vendors office in uk could have done it. Then
another friend thought of another product that would run with jaws and not
upset it,that was Lunar not an fs product.. He was right Magic? No magic
made it worse. However I was by that time determined if they would not could
not fix it to get a work a round myself a Local engineer just a mainstream
engineer said,he had once worked for a firm of electronics, the company had
shut down,he said I will make you a box to invert the screen, it would not
interfere with jaws and have a switch that switch couldbe just pushed up and
the screen be inverted,so I would have black screen and white font. We
called it a "switching box", trouble is time went buy and I could not get to
see a prototype, he said he was having problems with three of the colours
and couldnot eliminate a large amount of white around the screen He
mentioned 3 colours I think he said Hexadecimals. In the end I realised he
was not able to admit defeat and got the dolphin Lunar. No I am not mad I
just was cross at the time since getting the problem aired was too hard if
the problem had been admitted by vendor,and I not blamed I would have just
acceptedit.. dorothy

-----Original Message-----
From: []
On Behalf Of Charles Coe
Sent: 01 October 2011 19:58
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: JAWS saying the thing that is not

I do not think a software program can lie only that it's programmer made an
error. Only human lie.

It looks as if this might be a focus problem with JAWS. The only thing I
have experienced is that JAWS will read the title of a email message even
after I had deleted it. Secondly JAWS will inform me that there is an
update but when I go to look for what that update is, it isn't there!


-----Original Message-----
From: []
On Behalf Of Dorothy
Sent: Saturday, October 01, 2011 10:58 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: JAWS saying the thing that is not

Yes if they listen of course, a teacher should not have to point out to her
students that the product tends to lie! regards dorothy

-----Original Message-----
From: []
On Behalf Of Farfar on Laptop
Sent: 01 October 2011 16:11
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: JAWS saying the thing that is not


Using JAWS 12.0.525 regularly and occasionally testing JAWS 13.0.171. XP Pro


To varying degrees I've also heard the reporting of the wrong line in
documents. I've not noticed the announcement of a previous application when
launching a new one, however.

but I can agree that depending on the context, a number might get the th or
rd added when reading line-by-line or in say all. It tends to happen when
the preceding word is interpreted as a month or its abbreviation. Never
could figure out how to turn that off.

And of course also being a long-time JAWS user I've learned to ignore these
quirks. But I can understand how a new student would be confused is the
speech were not as accurate as it should be.
Good points to bring up to Freedom Scientific.

Dave Carlson
From my Dell Latitude 630.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ann byrne" <>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <>
Sent: Saturday, October 01, 2011 5:31
Subject: JAWS saying the thing that is not

Maybe I'm just getting cranky---a definite possibility--but I find
myself saying more and more often to my students, "JAWS is lying to you."

1. When opening a new document or application, JAWS often rereads
the previous screen before reading the screen it just opened. To a
newby, this is way confusing.

2. When reading dates, JAWS speaks a 'th' or 'st' or 'rd' after the
date, even though it isn't there. It is important to me to know what
I wrote, not what JAWS thinks I want to hear.

3. When working with an outline in Word 2010, JAWS often but not
consistently reports the line I just pressed enter on, and not the
new line with the outline number. So when I'm planning a party--my
favorite outline--it says "2. send invitations' and not '3', which is
where the cursor is.

I don't think I'm imagining this. Is anyone else having these kinds
of issues???



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