Re: Views on Keyboard Shortcuts to teach or, perhaps, emphasize when teaching

Paul D. J. Jenkins <pdjj6123@...>

Hello Gary,

Insert F7, to display a list of links, is still a JAWS-specific command. In order for it to work in another ScreenReader, it has to be added into their keyboard layer. I know this because it will not work when using Narrator with Internet Explorer. Of course, you can make it work with Window-Eyes, and unless I am much mistaken, it works with NVDA right from the word go.

Have a great weekend!


-----Original Message-----
From: Gary King []
Sent: Friday, January 08, 2016 23:42
Subject: Re: Views on Keyboard Shortcuts to teach or, perhaps, emphasize when teaching

Well, right after I posted the below message, I thought of exceptions to the
rule. Quick Keys in browsers are JAWS keystrokes that don't have the JAWS
Key in combination with them. So, I guess you could say that it's a general
rule with some exceptions. I think it's still a good rule though for
telling JAWS keystrokes from Windows keystrokes.

Gary King
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gary King" <>
To: <>
Sent: Friday, January 08, 2016 10:28 PM
Subject: Re: Views on Keyboard Shortcuts to teach or, perhaps, emphasize
when teaching

Windows keystrokes do not involve the JAWS Key, while JAWS keystrokes do.
Can anyone think of exceptions?

Gary King
----- Original Message -----
From: "Laura Richardson" <>
To: <>
Sent: Friday, January 08, 2016 9:05 PM
Subject: Re: Views on Keyboard Shortcuts to teach or, perhaps, emphasize
when teaching


This may seem like a dumb question but I�ll ask it anyway ...... When
using keystrokes to perform certain tasks, could someone tell me how I
know if that is a Windows keystroke or a Jaws keystroke? I use Windows 7
and Jaws 15.


-----Original Message-----
From: Carolyn Arnold []
Sent: Friday, January 08, 2016 7:41 PM
Subject: Re: Views on Keyboard Shortcuts to teach or, perhaps, emphasize
when teaching

Brian, I think that we need to know Windows strokes, since we are working
in a Windows system, but, as blind users, it is imperative for us to know
JAWS specific strokes. That is why, for us, there is so much more to learn
to get maximum use from our computers.

Bye for now,


-----Original Message-----
From: Brian Vogel []
Sent: Friday, January 8, 2016 6:13 PM
Subject: Views on Keyboard Shortcuts to teach or, perhaps, emphasize when

[Edited Message Follows]

Hello All,

What follows is a rather philosophical question but that
certainly has practical implications that the cohort will know about a lot
more personally than I ever can. Hence this is the place to ask.

When I tutor on using JAWS I do not focus exclusively on JAWS and
its keystrokes because JAWS hovers on top of all other Windows programs
and assists in using those. My philosophy is that I want my clients to
know as many, if not more, keyboard shortcuts that are universally, or
very close to universally, applicable in all Windows programs. I want
them to know that, in almost all cases, ALT+F opens the file menu or
equivalent, followed by S saves a file, followed by A does a Save as, etc.

One of my clients, with whom I had a marathon 3.25 hour tutoring
session yesterday, is relatively new to using Windows Live Mail as well as
using PDF XChange viewer to perform OCR on the many image PDFs that still
get thrown his way. As a result, I worked him through certain tasks
step-by-step and create instructions in the same format, examples of which
will follow. It was only when we were conversing afterward, and he used
the phrase JAWS keyboard shortcuts when talking about conventional Windows
keyboard shortcuts that I thought it important that he had at least a
basic understanding that keyboard shortcuts do differ in what program
layer, JAWS versus a give Windows program, is responsible for the
interpretation of same. I want him to understand how to apply Windows
keyboard shortcuts "by extension" when he is playing around with a Windows
program that's new to him. Is this a mistake to try to make this
distinction? Is it unwise to not focus nearly exclusively on JAWS
keyboard shortcuts for functions that also exist independently as a
different Windows keyboard shortcut? I'd love to get the perspective of
those who would know the pluses and minuses of leaning one way or another.

What follows are a couple of examples of the step-by-step
instruction sets I've created, and they look more complicated than they
actually are because I try to break things down into simple single steps.
Once you know what you're doing most of these tasks can be done in a few
moments. I'll include the instructions for running OCR with PDF XChange
Viewer because it may be helpful to some here who have decided to play
with that program. All focus almost exclusively on using WIndows keyboard
shortcuts for the program in question with JAWS serving the role of
narrating what's happening while you do this.


Using PDF XChange Viewer to perform OCR on any PDF you receive that is an
image PDF, step-by-step:

1. Open PDF XChange Viewer from your start menu.

2. Hit ALT+F,O to bring up the file open browsing dialog.

3. Hit ALT+I to jump directly to the Look In combo box

4. Hit down arrow to get into the area that�s somewhat, but not
exactly, like the tree view in Windows Explorer.

5. Hit L until you hear, �Libraries,� announced.

6. Hit TAB two times, you should hear, �Documents�.

7. Hit SPACEBAR to select the Documents library.

8. Hit ENTER to open the documents library.

9. Hit the first character of the folder or file name you�re trying to
perform OCR on. Keep doing this with the first character until you hear
its name announced.

10. Hit Enter to open the file or folder. If you�re
dealing with a file at this step go straight to step 11. Otherwise, do
the following

a. If you know the file is in this folder then use the �hit the first
character� technique to locate it and jump to step 11 once you have.

b. If you need to drill down another folder level go back to step 9.

11. Hit ALT+O to open the file in PDF XChange

12. Hit CTRL+SHIFT+C to open the OCR dialog box.
Immediately hit ENTER to initiate the OCR processing. The length of time
this takes depends on the size of the file being processed. JAWS does not
read the processing status box, but will announce the file�s name with
star after it when the processing completes. That�s how you�ll know it�s

13. Hit ALT+F,S to save the file and its OCR text
into the original file itself.

14. Hit ALT+F4 to close PDF XChange Viewer.


Creating a new folder in Windows Explorer, step-by-step:

1. Open Windows Explorer and navigate to the folder location in which
you wish to create the new folder.

2. Hit ALT+F,W,F to create the new folder itself.

3. Type in the name you want for the new folder you�re creating.

4. Hit ENTER to make that new name stick, and you�re done.


To find a specific e-mail message in WLM, step-by-step:

1. Hit ALT+O,FI which opens the message find submenu

2. You are presented with two choices in this submenu: Find Text and
Find Message. I will cover each of these briefly.

3. Find Text presents a dialog box allows you to enter a word, words,
or phrase that you know is somewhere within the message you�re trying to
find. Simply enter that text and skip to step 5.

4. Find Message presents you with a dialog box with a number of
possible attributes of the message you might want to search on, e.g.,
Subject, From, To, and others. Tab through and fill in whichever of these
attributes you wish to include in the search. After you�ve filled in
whichever are pertinent, go to step 5.

5. Hit ALT+I to activate the Find Now key. This will cause a dialog
box to come up with the list of messages that match whatever you searched
on, if any exist. These are presented very much like your inbox message
list, but are composed only of messages that match the search criteria you
entered. When you hear the one you�re interested in as you move through
them, hit ENTER to open it.

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