When you come down to it, this kind of problem is outside of most folks’
frame of reference—they don’t think of it, because they don’t experience
it. While I agree that you can always tell a bigot, but you can’t tell
him much, most don’t understand our problems only because they were
never explained; the best cure for ignorance is knowledge.

Ted

*From:*Brian Vogel [mailto:britechguy@...]
*Sent:* Wednesday, January 06, 2016 10:22 AM
*To:* jfw@groups.io
*Subject:* Re: What is the issue with Captchas?

Cindy Ray,

You are entitled to your anger, which is justifiable, but
not to your assertion that Captchas value at thwarting hackers is
"dubious at best." They functioned (and function) brilliantly at
preventing machine-based attacks of all sorts. They were and are a
brilliant idea that had "the law of unintended consequences" attached.
They've also been modified with audio, at least genuine Captcha
captchas have, due to accessibility concerns.

Gerald's assertion is dubious, at best, as advocacy from
individuals and groups is precisely what has driven the changes that
have already occurred and continue to occur. When it comes down to it
the old adage, "It's not all about you," (and that's for the generic
you) applies here. Businesses and entities are only trying to protect
themselves and their assets, and, by extension, their clients. There is
no malicious intent and there is far more awareness, and responsiveness,
with regard to accessibility issues when those are identified.

There is no "one size fits all" solution to any problem, and
there is no utility in creating a completely permeable barrier when a
partial barrier is actually needed. Input from those negatively
affected is an incredibly valuable and necessary part of working through
some issues that really had not been anticipated.