Re: keystrokes vs virtual ribbons


Adrian Spratt
 

Yes.

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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold via Jfw
Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2015 5:05 PM
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Cc: Carolyn Arnold
Subject: RE: keystrokes vs virtual ribbons

Do you keep it on all? That is where mine is set.

Bye for now,

Carolyn

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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Adrian
Spratt via Jfw
Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2015 4:58 PM
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Cc: Adrian Spratt <Adrian@AdrianSpratt.com>
Subject: RE: keystrokes vs virtual ribbons

Kimber,

I never understood that feature before, so thanks for mentioning it. For
anyone interested, it's in the JAWS context menu, which I get to with
JAWS key+j. Press enter on "options" and again on "basics," and tab to
"access keys." Arrow up or down through four options. I believe "all" is
the default, only because I never tinkered with this setting and "all"
was selected.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Kimber
Gardner via Jfw
Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2015 2:27 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Kimber Gardner
Subject: Re: keystrokes vs virtual ribbons

Hi Pablo,

If you set your jaws announcements to speak access keys (I think?), then
jaws will tell you the keystrokes as you tab through the ribbons without
turning on virtual ribbons. I have an Excel spreadsheet that lists all
the various ribbon commands and associated shortcuts/keystrokes. Yes, I
am a little type A that way. <g> I'd be glad to share this document with
you if you'd like. I don't use Excel enough to have a similar list, but I
may get around to making one up one of these days.

Kimber

On 10/10/15, Pablo Morales via Jfw <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> wrote:
Using the virtual ribbon, there is a way to know what are the
keystrokes associated with each item in the ribbons?

Use the ribbons helps a lot to understand the structure of the
ribbons, with the virtual ribbon off, is time consuming and is very
easy to get lost navigating with the tab key only. But with the
virtual ribbons on, the keystrokes doesn't work, and sometimes I
don't know what is worse, if the virtual ribbons on or off. But if I
need to get to a place in the ribbon, I have no way to learn the
keystrokes, only deactivating the virtual ribbons and pressing tab
many many times, and probably getting lost.

So I see both ways very inconvenient.

Is there a way to get the keystrokes and at the same time keeping the
logic structure of the ribbons,?

I am trying to teach people to use MS word, and excel, but the ribbons
is very hard to make them understand the structure of each ribbons,
but the ribbon as unique tool using these programs is not going to be
so efficient in the future either.



So there is a way to get the keystrokes when we are navigating through
the virtual ribbons, and like this once we know where and what is the
structure of the ribbons, just use the keystrokes associated with each
item on the ribbons?

Thanks



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