Re: Using convenient OCR in situations other than converting a PDF document, etc. ...


HAMILTON
 

Good gracious! I litterally had no idea! I'm "almost" speechless!

Would the "c" (as in ins+space+o+c) work with the issue, of JAWS not reading
the "buttons", that "another" Jim had with the "G force experience
program"?

Would it also allow us to "label" those graphics that never seem to get
labeled with the "ins+ctrl+g"?

Like I said, "almost" speechless!

Thank you. After I hear your reply to these questions, I will be "off to
explore"!

Jim H

P.S.: OH MY! The mind boggles!

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of david via Jfw
Sent: Monday, September 14, 2015 3:40 PM
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Subject: RE: Using convenient OCR in situations other than converting a PDF
document, etc. ...

here's the information from the jaws help.

Convenient OCR
Frequently, you will encounter images that contain textual information.
These can include a PDF file, the setup screen of an application, or the
menu of selections for a DVD movie. While these images contain text that is
readable by a sighted person, JAWS is unable to read the text as it is part
of the image.

The Convenient OCR (Optical Character Recognition) feature enables you to
access any image on the screen that includes text, or recognize all of the
text in a PDF document. With just a few simple keystrokes, JAWS will
recognize the image in a matter of seconds and activate the JAWS cursor so
you can navigate the resulting text. The recognized text will be in the same
location as the actual image on the screen. In order to differentiate the
recognized text from other text that may be in the window, JAWS will use a
different voice when it encounters the recognized text. When you activate
the PC cursor, or switch to another application or dialog box, the text is
removed and you will need to perform the OCR again.

If you open a PDF document and there is no text available to read, you can
perform a keystroke that will recognize the entire document and place the
resulting text into the Results Viewer for reading. You can then use
standard reading commands to review the text or select and copy sections of
content for pasting in other applications.

To use Convenient OCR, the following layered keystrokes are available:

INSERT+SPACEBAR, O, D. Recognizes the currently open PDF document.
INSERT+SPACEBAR, O, W. Recognizes the current application window that has
focus.
INSERT+SPACEBAR, O, S. Recognizes the entire screen.
INSERT+SPACEBAR, O, C. Recognizes the currently selected control, such as a
graphical button.
INSERT+SPACEBAR, O, Q. Cancels recognition while it is in progress.
INSERT+SPACEBAR, O, QUESTION MARK. Speaks a brief help message describing
the commands in the OCR layer.
The following examples illustrate just some of the uses of this feature.

You insert a DVD movie into your computer which brings up a menu allowing
you to select from various DVD features. You press INSERT+SPACEBAR, O, W and
after a few seconds, JAWS will alert you that OCR is complete. At this
point, the JAWS cursor will be active and you can navigate around the screen
using the ARROW keys and read the text of the menu. When you hear the option
you want, press NUMPAD SLASH to perform a left-mouse-click, or INSERT+NUMPAD
PLUS to route PC to JAWS to activate the option. Prior to JAWS 13, this menu
would have been completely inaccessible.
Note: Depending on the type of screen the DVD displays and the quality of
the text, the Convenient OCR may not always work. Some DVD screens will be
recognized better than others.

You open a PDF in Adobe Reader which turns out to be inaccessible. Press
INSERT+SPACEBAR, O, D to have JAWS begin recognizing the entire document.
After several seconds, the contents of the PDF file are displayed in the
Results Viewer for reading. Use standard reading commands to review the text
or select and copy sections of content for pasting in other applications.
For example, you could select all, then copy and paste into a Microsoft Word
document, which you could then save.
Note: The OCR process takes longer for larger PDF files. As text is
recognized, it is added to the end of the existing text already in the
Results Viewer. This allows you to continue reading without interruption as
the document is processed. If you are currently not reading using Say All,
JAWS announces the current line as new text is added to the Results Viewer
to indicate that OCR is still in progress.

Note: If the PDF document requires a password, you will be prompted to enter
it when you first press INSERT+SPACEBAR, O, D. You must enter the correct
password before the OCR process will continue.

You try to install or use an application whose interface is not accessible,
such as AcronisR True ImageT Home 2011 or 2012. If no text is readily
available when pressing TAB or when using the JAWS Cursor, you can try
Convenient OCR. Start with the PC Cursor and press INSERT+SPACEBAR, O, W to
recognize the text of the welcome screen graphic. You can then use the JAWS
Cursor and NUMPAD SLASH (left mouse button) to move to and choose what are
possible buttons and links.
If you are not getting clear recognition results or you find that text is
running together when you recognize the current screen, window, or control,
refer to FAQ 63556 for ways to optimize performance. When recognizing a PDF
document, Convenient OCR does not use the physical image that is currently
visible on the screen, so the recognition results feature a higher degree of
accuracy since they are not affected by the current screen resolution.

Note that to correctly recognize text in other languages, you can configure
the primary and secondary OCR language. The Convenient OCR settings are in
the main tree view in Settings Center. When you expand this item, you have
Primary Recognition Language and Secondary Recognition Language settings.
Use the SPACEBAR to cycle through the available languages until you hear the
one you want, or press F6 to move to the combo box and select a language.

When you install JAWS from the program disc, the OCR components are
automatically installed. If you download JAWS from the Web site and have an
active Internet connection when you begin the installation, the OCR
components will be downloaded during the install. If you do not have an
active Internet connection when you install JAWS from the Web download, a
message is displayed at the end of the installation stating that some
components were not installed. To use the OCR feature, establish an Internet
connection and run the installation again so the OCR components are
downloaded.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Jim Hamilton
via Jfw
Sent: Monday, September 14, 2015 2:14 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Jim Hamilton
Subject: Using convenient OCR in situations other than converting a PDF
document, etc. ...

Dave:

I had never been told that we could use "convenient OCR" for situations
other than converting documents into readable text. In your below message,
on the subject of "G force experience update Nvidia", you suggest using this
to see if it would allow access to "buttons" that can not be read with JAWS
or PC cursors. Could you please provide more information on how this could
be done? And, are there other situations where Convenient OCR could be
used?

Jim H (not the other/previously messaged "Jim")

To almost Quote a friend: "you may never know how far you can go until you
exceed your reach!"

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Dave Carlson
via Jfw
Sent: Monday, September 14, 2015 9:47 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list. <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: Dave Carlson <dgcarlson@sbcglobal.net>
Subject: Re: G force experience update Nvidia

Jim,

I wonder if you can run the convenient OCR while in that dialog to learn
more about those buttons?

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and pioneer

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jim L via Jfw" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: "Jim L" <jimscave@tpg.com.au>
Sent: Monday, September 14, 2015 12:33 AM
Subject: G force experience update Nvidia


Heya folks,

Am running Jaws 16 and for awhile now have had issues updating my nvidia
video drivers using G force experience
When I am in the G force experience program I can get to the update area and
what to check and uncheck etc but under all that there's 4 to 5 unlabeled
buttons jaws just reads as button, button etc
Does anyone know the order of what these buttons do?
Any help will be appreciated

Cheers,

Jim



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