Re: How to get location from "File Save" dialog


Steve Griffiths
 

Once you're in the Save As dialogue, you can press Alt-D to move focus to the location area and read it. You should then be able to press Alt-N to move back to the file name area, but that doesn't work for me in Word 2013. What I do is press Alt-T to go to the Save as type control, then Shift-Tab once to the filename area.

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-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold via Jfw
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Subject: RE: How to get location from "File Save" dialog

I did that calendar thing for several years. Our pastor says, "if you want to know what day something is going to happen, just ask 'Ms. Carolyn.'"
Frankly, I have welcomed this calendar with open arms.

Best from,

Carolyn

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Subject: RE: How to get location from "File Save" dialog

Paul:

Not knowing where files get stored is a function of MicroSoft's "desire" to make decisions for you, so that you don't have to "worry yourself" - I suppose! You will, I hope, forgive a little sarcasm regarding MicroSoft's intentions.

Anyway, in order to avoid this dilemna, I make a point to "NOT" use the default "save" settings. I do shift-tab my way back to where I can select the appropriate folder, on the main ROOT - but, not back to the "toolbar desktop split", in which to save files. That way, I know where everything is, or at least, how to find what I want. Unfortunately, we "CANNOT" delete "my documents", and the like. Windows won't allow it! It knows how much you want to depend on such services that they so willingly offer to its customers!

By the way, I do not even like to use Outlook's Calendar. I set up my own calendar, with a Word file for each week of the year. It's amazing how good you can get at predicting what day of the week on which a specific date next year will fall. :) :)

Hope this helps. And again, please forgive me for letting my feelings come out; but, MicroSoft is such a large target!

Jim H

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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Paul Martz via Jfw
Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2015 12:39 PM
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Cc: Paul Martz <skewmatrix@gmail.com>
Subject: How to get location from "File Save" dialog

Hi all.

Is there a quick way to get JAWS to read the location (i.e., library name or filesystem path) while in a "File Save" dialog?

Some apps use the "Documents" library as the default. Other apps have their own location as the default. If you change the location when you save a file, this is "sticky" for some apps, and for other apps it is not sticky.
Even if it is sticky, if it's been a while since I saved a file in the app, I may have forgotten where I last saved the file. So the bottom line is:
Just about any time I save a file, I'd like to quickly find out where the "File Save" dialog is set to save the file, before I click the save button.

It'd be nice if I could just hit JAWSKEY + T, but unfortunately, the current location path is not displayed in the title bar of the "File Save" dialog, so this doesn't work.

The "File Save" dialog typically opens with focus in the file name field.
The only way I know to obtain the location is to SHIFT + TAB about a half dozen times until I get to the confusingly titles "toolbar desktop split button", press spacebar, then hit JAWSKEY + UP ARROW to read the current line. Note that the number of times I have to hit SHIFT + TAB to get to the "toolbar desktop split button" is variable, as the number of controls varies depending on the currently set location. So this method is time consuming and rather a PITA.

Making matters worse, many applications use custom versions of the "File Save" dialog. Each new version of MS Office, for example, has a completely different "File Save" dialog. Other older apps, such as FS OpenBook, have an old Windows 98 style of "File Save". Just as an example. How I get JAWS to read the current location varies depending on the style of "File Save"
dialog the application is using.

This is really a problem that is screaming for a built-in JAWS solution that would be universal across all applications and styles of "File Save"
dialogs.

Any ideas?

As a final note, I train blind and visually impaired people on using the computer with JAWS, and one of the most frequent problems people encounter is that they don't know where they are saving their documents and subsequently are unable to locate them.
-Paul



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