Re: data graphing ideas?


Monique Lalonde
 

Hi All,

If JAWS can read graph information in Excel, does anyone know how accessible it would be to create a graph in Excel and copy it into a Word document? I may need to do this for an Economics class.
Thanks.

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Yes it does exist.

Dave Carlson
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On Aug 26, 2015, at 06:39, Richard B. McDonald via Jfw <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> wrote:

Unless I am mistaken, I think somewhere I read that JAWS has a feature that
will describe a graph in Excel. I cannot remember where I read that, but I
suspect it was in the "help" areas for JAWS in Excel. Has anyone else ever
run across this?

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Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2015 7:43 AM
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Subject: Re: data graphing ideas?

I think you're on the right track.
the Orion TI-84 Plus Talking Graphing Calculator employs:
. Graph functions and trace points made accessible with speech and audible
tone.
. Listen to entire graph, including special sounds for negative regions and
axis crossing points.

if you want to check it out for more ideas:
https://shop.aph.org/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/Product_Orion%20TI-84%20Plus%
20Talking%20Graphing%20Calculator_1-07340-00P_10001_11051

since you're an experienced programmer, you're more enabled to "make it so".
but remember, newbie wanna be scriptwriters need to start from the bottom of
the barrel... have you ever considered to join the JAWS scripting ml? not
to shew you away from this ml, but you can pose more technical questions
about scripting snafoos to get assistance from other experienced sdcripters.

On 8/20/2015 11:44 AM, Paul Martz via Jfw wrote:
I'll start by saying I don't know of any off-the-shelf graphing
solutions for visually impaired users. So everything that follows is sort
of "what if"
hypothetical stuff, just thinking out loud.

Presenting data to blind and visually impaired users seems like a
mostly uninvestigated area, wide open for new research. There is an
annual academic conference called IEEE Vis: http://ieeevis.org/.
Historically, their focus is to present new research in different ways
to visualize data. As far as I know, they have never bitten off the
challenge of presenting data in non-visual ways. But if you have any
pull in the academic community, perhaps you could get some grad
students to research ways to display data non-visually, with the
end-goal of getting their research published through this conference.

Just thinking off the top of my head, I could imagine a bar chart with
items left-to-right (along the x axis) and values along the y axis. We
could use JAWS to read the value for each item, but instead of just
reading numbers, modulate the JAWS speech pitch in accordance with the
value: larger values would be read with a higher pitch, smaller values
with a lower pitch. So, instead of just hearing a bunch of numbers,
you'd hear pitch changes with each number that would allow the user to
immediately place the value relative to other values. The pitch
changes would give you a "picture" of the values relative to each other.

I'm sure that's a pretty naive approach, but as far as I know, no one
has tried it yet. It might be an interesting challenge for the JAWS
scripting language.
-Paul



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