Re: How To Configure Either The Windows 10 or Windows 8 Shutdown Menu To Truly Turn Off Your Computer


Daniel McBride
 

Joe:

Do you recommend having fast start up on or off?

Dan

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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Joseph Lee via
Jfw
Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2015 4:07 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Joseph Lee
Subject: RE: How To Configure Either The Windows 10 or Windows 8 Shutdown
Menu To Truly Turn Off Your Computer

Hi Debbie and list:
That's because Mark might have been confused in terminology: it's actually
called Fast Startup. Let me explain what it truly does (a bit technical
here, but will try to boil this down a bit):
When Windows boots, it needs to read in needed data one at a time in
multiple phases. First, whether you are booting into Safe Mode is
determined, then Windows kernel (the heart of the operating system), called
NTOSKrnl.exe (Windows NT Operating System Kernel) determines type of CPU,
amount of RAM, devices present and so on. Once the kernel is ready, it'll
ask the video card to display the Windows logo on screen, then other parts
of Windows responsible for loading user profiles will display a login prompt
(if configured to do so), and if the user successfully logs in, Windows will
start programs that will start automatically (including JAWS) and apply user
settings (this is collectively called a "session", and there is a subsystem
in Windows (called Session Manager Subsystem or SMSS.exe) that manages this;
when you use Windows, at least two sessions become active: session 0
(services) and session N (where N is the currently logged in user).
During shutdown, Windows will first close programs you were using, and if an
app does not respond, it'll pop up a dialog saying one or more apps are not
responding and ask if you wish to shutdown anyway (you may get this prompt
from time to time). Once the user logs off, Windows will terminate services
(including JAWS if told to run as a service), save user settings (including
registry changes) and turn your computer off completely. This is a full
startup/shutdown cycle.
As opposed to the above cycle, Microsoft has found a way to just turn off
user session (Windows 8.0 and later). When the computer shuts down, if Fast
Startup (technically called Hybrid Boot) is in use, Windows will log off the
user (save profiles, close programs, etc.), then the system services will
enter hibernation (where current physical memory content is stored on a
disk). Next time the computer boots, Windows system services will resume
from where they have left off, then users will be prompted to log in. This
is useful on newer computers which uses a newer firmware type called Unified
Extensible Firmware Interface (UEFI), as the boot process is simpler than
older BIOS (Basic Input/Output System) firmware (I'll not go into details on
how these firmware boots, as this is too off topic here; ask me offlist) or
those using SSD's (Solid State Drives).
The reason why you hear "JAWS for Windows" when you turn off your computer
is because you have Fast Startup (or Hybrid Boot) turned on. To change this
behavior, follow Mark's instructions, but look for Fast Startup instead.
Hybrid Boot should not be confused with Fast User Switching (Windows XP and
later): Fast User Switching lets someone else log into your computer via a
different user account (provided there are multiple user accounts) without
stopping programs you were using (you'll be logged off first). On PC's
(client Windows versions), only one user can use the computer at a time, but
on server systems, multiple users can log in simultaneously (this includes
Remote Desktop accounts).
References:
Full startup/shutdown sequence:
* Ionescu, Alex, Solomon, David A., Russinovich, Mark E. Windows Internals,
Sixth Edition Part 2 (Windows 7), Microsoft Press, 2012.
Hybrid Boot:
* Sinofsky, Steven. Delivering fast boot times in Windows 8, MSDN Building
Windows 8 blog, September 8, 2011. URL:
http://blogs.msdn.com/b/b8/archive/2011/09/08/delivering-fast-boot-times-in-
windows-8.aspx
* Woods, Ben. Windows 8 'hybrid' mode brings faster boot, ZDNet, September
9, 2011. URL:
http://www.zdnet.com/article/windows-8-hybrid-mode-brings-faster-boot/
* Shultz, Greg. How Windows 8 Hybrid Shutdown / Fast Boot feature works,
TechRepublic, October 24, 2013. URL:
http://www.techrepublic.com/blog/windows-and-office/how-windows-8-hybrid-shu
tdown-fast-boot-feature-works/
UEFI boot process:
* UEFI boot: how does that actually work, then (Adam W), January 25, 2014.
URL:
https://www.happyassassin.net/2014/01/25/uefi-boot-how-does-that-actually-wo
rk-then/
Windows sessions:
* Hameed, C. Sessions, Desktops and Windows Stations, Ask the Performance
Team, TechNet, July 24, 2007. URL:
http://blogs.technet.com/b/askperf/archive/2007/07/24/sessions-desktops-and-
windows-stations.aspx
Although these references refer to old Windows releases (Windows Vista, 7
and 8.x), it applies to Windows 10, and some of these are quite technical.
Hope this helps.
Cheers,
Joseph



-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Debbie April
Yuille via Jfw
Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2015 1:13 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Debbie April Yuille
Subject: RE: How To Configure Either The Windows 10 or Windows 8 Shutdown
Menu To Truly Turn Off Your Computer

Hi Mark

I've followed your steps, but I don't see an option to disable fast user
switching. I do however see an option to turn off fast start up though.

Thanks
Debbie

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Mark via Jfw
Sent: Wednesday, 12 August 2015 5:23 PM
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Cc: Mark <facebookmark@candleshoreblog.com>
Subject: How To Configure Either The Windows 10 or Windows 8 Shutdown Menu
To Truly Turn Off Your Computer

Hello Everyone,

The following steps will work in both Windows 10 and Windows 8.x in order to
disable the Fast-User switching option. Doing this will allow your computer
to truly be shut-down as it was in Windows 7 and earlier.

To disable Fast-User Switching, do the following:

1.
Access Windows 10 Power Options. This can easily be achieved using several
methods:
a.
Right click in the lower left corner of the screen (or simultaneously press
the Windows + X keys). This will bring up an 'Admin' menu. Simply select
Power Options from that menu.
b.
From within the Desktop; navigate to Control Panel>Power Options.
Or c.
From within the Start Screen; type "power", click on Settings, and select
Power Options from the list of results:

2.
In the 'Power Options' window; click on Choose what the power buttons do
(from the left hand panel):

3.
In the new window; click on Change settings that are currently unavailable:

4.
Uncheck Fast user switching.

That's all there is to it.

Enjoy,

Mark


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